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=A= | 06.09.2001 16:17
The night is the cloak of darkness we need , the bricks lying in the streets our bombs which under the cloak of darkness sail through their plate glass windows.
Financial damage keeps the bastards on their toes,shelling out hundreds,thousands to keep themselves insured,one day no one wants to insure a company/shop that is forever having its windows smashed...think about it.
Never give up , every day is protest day.
Financial damage keeps the bastards on their toes,shelling out hundreds,thousands to keep themselves insured,one day no one wants to insure a company/shop that is forever having its windows smashed...think about it.
Never give up , every day is protest day.
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Futile.
06.09.2001 19:17
You cannot change a social system through breaking windows.
Windows will be repaired (growth for glassiers as well!) and life will continue as normal. Capitalism is not a physical object you can break, it is society. It will only be changed when the majority of people want to change it and aim to put an alternative in place. This can come about when in the process of stuggling against an aspect of capitalism large numbers of people develop new ways of seeing the world, of relating to each other, become aware of their collective strength and of myriad realities and different possibilities. Such situations are the historic roots of revolutionary ideas. Thus everything which contributes to the building mass active opposition to capitalism (or firstly to it's effects or particular aspects) contributes to the downfall of capitalism and it's replacement by a free society. Mass Direct Action does this, because it impowers people (and gives an example to others). Direct Action here defined as something which actually DOES something, not a protest be it with placards or with window smashing. For instance the shutting down of the summit in Seattle was Mass Direct Action, it involved many people and it did something.
People going out in the middle of the night and breaking windows is not, does not, and achieves nothing.
Furthermore such actions do not inspire others to do similar as these actions only enter the public mind via the corporate media, and as such a corporate media interperation is given to them.
Please put your energies and passion into something more usefull.
Free Earth
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check them out
06.09.2001 23:58
instead of breaking their windows check out what they are upto, a lot of these guys you see driving up in exotic flashy cars, in top spots like Mayfair are crooks .
its you wouldn't believe how many of them are completely at it, not just drugs, recycling/ laundering dirty money.
It's very intersting to note how organized crime fits into the Globalisation machinery. look at Ashcroft , Berlusconi
they are both crooks who operate right at top level.
anyway it's your choice ....
snoop
Choice indeed...
07.09.2001 09:56
Far better to boycott all goods made under corporate control, take a leaf from Ya Basta!/Wombles and really get down to understanding how the world works - then changing it. Get into the boardrooms - make a stink that the media can't ignore - but don't wreck anything physical - the real war is not on that plane - it's on the plane of delicately poised economics that have bankers so terrified they are beginning to act like barbarians in the way they demand protection.
We ARE winning but cunning and subtlety will be far more useful in maintaining the pressure than any old thrown brick...
mango
Homepage: http://www.environment.org.uk/activist/
Boycott Big Business
07.09.2001 10:12
But they are just the front men, we are governed by evil, greedy, inhumane people in a criminal system. But we keep this system in place, and contribute to it's perpetuation, we put these men/women in power!
Therefore we can overthrow it, by withdrawing our support and complicity. Don't bank, buy diamonds, wear Nike, eat McDonalds, or use any of their products, the majority of which we don't NEED!
Big Boy
ahhh ...the good ol`uk activists?
07.09.2001 14:11
Come on soldiers,the fucking war is on right now in your home towns!!!!
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!Fuck the system!
07.09.2001 14:28
This debate all depends on 'how serious about stopping exploitation by any means neccessary are you'?This tactic is a proven way of ridding your town/city of the death peddler shop fronts you're supposed to be 'protesting'about.
Anarchy/peace/freedom - 'by any means neccessary'.
GhostDogz23
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To smash or not to smash...
07.09.2001 21:45
The idea of insurance is to replace a small risk of a great loss that they couldn't afford with a 100% certainty of a smaller loss. There's never any point in insuring against a certainy, one would only ever want to insure against a risk.
If you make smashed windows a certainty and not a risk then insurance won't be an issue. Bankruptcy probably will.
So from the point of view of destroying a business then it's an alright tactic. It would be, in my opinion, a form of war. But then wars have been fought for worse reasons than the overthrow of capitalism.
But having said that you have to way up the disadvantages. Smashing windows is a hateful thing to do. And we all know that hate breeds hate.
Also, there are a growing number of people sympathetic to the antiglobalisation agenda or at least to certain aspects of it. Smashing windows tends to alienate the vast majority of them. Is the movement better off without these people or not?
Also, is it worth getting a criminal record?
A more constructive approach is to change people's minds rather than to break things.
Think about it, if everyone was persuaded then there would be no need for violence. If everyone outside what all you Marxists term the "ruling class"... if everyone outside of that small but powerful section of society were persuaded then we could all just mutiny against capitalism. It would be like convincing everyone in an army apart from the generals, to stop fighting some war. The people who have power will no longer have that power if all the people stop doing what they're told to do.
Perhaps rather than a revolution of blood or a revolution of smashed glass, we should be aiming for a revolution in consciousness. It's not as macho and hard and masculine but are we here to try and be hard or are we here to change the world?
There are certain advantages of the smash everything in sight school of thought. But personally I'm not convinced that those advantages outweight the disadvantages.
I don't have a moral problem with smashing stuff. It's nothing compared with the violence of capitalism itself - violence that is taken for granted and even considered respectable by the pliant unquestioning brainwashed masses.
However, I'm not sure that tactically its going to work.
Unless we want to impose some sort of totalitarian regime then to have this revolution, we need to get the people on our side.
And smashing stuff ain't gonna do that.
And yeah I am a cop;-) (no really)
Aleph0
Aleph0 ?
07.09.2001 21:53
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criminal records?
07.09.2001 22:07
akabernadette
Convince
08.09.2001 19:59
This is useful only if you are opposed to certain companies, if you are opposed to the enitre way in which society is organised you will need different methods.
Free Earth
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Glass is evil... kill it !!!!!!!!!
09.09.2001 14:55
Please smash as many fucking windows as possible.
Smash, smash, smash!!
Death to windows!! More money for Glaziers!!
Smash, smash, smash!!
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Glaziers Against Globalisation Kommando
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