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Update on the Bilderberg article

IMC | 02.09.2001 18:55

The article on the Call to Arms against Bilderberg was removed because the address at the top underneath the headline lead to a rascist site.

Please refer to the Editorial Admin page. The link is on the top of the main page. Discrimination: posts intending to oppress - using language, imagery, or other forms of communication which promote racism, fascism, xenophobia, sexism, or any other form of discrimination.

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What 'Racist' Site?

06.07.2001 00:07

|Everything possible seems to be done to STOP any discussion on Bilderberg - which racist site do you refer to - not mine I hope !! I am as far from being a racist as you can be and if it is my site IMC will be hearing from my solicitors.

Anyway - hope it was some loony right site you were referring to

Tony Gosling
mail e-mail: tony@gaia.org
- Homepage: http://www.bilderberg.org


I wanted to pull racist stuff to pieces

06.07.2001 00:27

I'd heard there was a 'racist' article on Bilderberg posted to the UK Indymedia site and was going to do a critique of it today. Only to find the article had been withdrawn.

This really is counterproductive and amounts to the very censorship and stifling of discussion/criticism that IMC was set up to stop.

It is also profoundly patronising to assume that people cannot make their own minds up about what views we should and shouldn't be expose to and totally against the IMC spirit.

I have been accused of Anti-Semitism with regard to my Bilderberg website in the past which I am not.

The US Anti Defamation League have been successfully sued for using this slur as 'a pot of black paint and a brush' to stifle legitimate criticism of one of the most powerful and secretive alliances of (almost exclusively non-Jewish) banking and business in the world.

I have a page all about this at  http://www.bilderberg.org/jewish.htm

a disapponited
Tony Gosling

Tony Gosling
mail e-mail: tony@gaia.org
- Homepage: http://www.bilderberg.org


hey

03.09.2001 20:11

Tony man, chill out!

it was a mostly reasonable sounding text appended with the contact details of a number of fascist organisations. the text suggested that they were leading the charge against corporate capitalism and the bilderberg etc.

It was therefore perfectly sensible to withdraw it. There was no ostensible fascism in the text so nothing immediate to argue with - just a very dubious invitation at the bottom for people bothered about the bilderberg to link up with fascists.

It was also labelled 'a call to arms' which is probably highly improper for a news site like indymedia.

meanwhile, keep up the good work...

zedhead


bilderburger stuff

03.09.2001 23:01

why on earth pull this stuff out? surely there is a base for discussing common concerns while debating various issues of a dark nature - like racism etc - you cant hope to expose any debate with right wing conspiracists if you dont let them in to the discussion. what you just put them down as scum with no hope of redemmption and change! reminds me of arguments for the death penalty. lets have free speech and debate on this media -we're all adults and dont need censorship for chrissakes.

dwight heet


not a place for seriarse discussion

04.09.2001 07:49

in reply to dwight heet, I agree with you .
it would have been interesting to debate:

1) wether the opinion of the obviously right wing author
was really his opinion. or was he briefed by for example the intelligence services ?

2) the article appeared in may 2001 , just before a busy summer of protests , sweden , genoa ect .

3) who are the ELF, they are an international group thats for sure, they might be confused with the Earth Liberation front
who are close to ALF . i'd like to know more about who I am likely to be rubbing shoulders on the next protest I attend.

My opinion is that this article could partly prove that the groups mentioned , European Liberation Front, were in genoa and it is quite possible that they have links with the secret services of various countries . on the other hand it might not. By feeding this anti bilderberger article to an extreme right wing group the intelligence services would also be keeping alive the myth that anyone who talks about bilderberg is anti semetic and a fascist .

perhaps its time for an "adult indymedia" 4 people who want to want indepth discussion about hardcore issues.



hill billy