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ITALIAN EMBASSY DEMO - LONDON 28-07-01

max | 27.07.2001 11:13

can anyone give out more information?

hiya

if anyone is organising, participating, or knows of the demo, can you please post more details about it? there are loads of people wishing to participate, but very little has been said about it.

personally, without wanting to anger anyone, but because I really, deeply don't fancy having to deal with the police, I would want to know if there's going to be any fuckwit that things s/he going to hit capitalism by smashing such a huge symbol such a window pane is.

thanks for the info.

max

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No Place For Fear..

27.07.2001 11:41

If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen, the police will be there in force using the usual intimidatiory tactics, whether a window is smashed or not. What's worse? Broken glass or broken, shattered lives...like Carlo's.

Just Cause


See this URL

27.07.2001 12:11

Details reported here:

 http://uk.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=7985

re windows, well I'm sure everyone would like to know what might happen in advance but we can't tell can we. If you want to attend then do so on your own terms and talk to the other people there. As stated no doubt the police will be there in numbers, but I think it's important for people to attend.

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smashed window = immediate s60

27.07.2001 12:12

If *they* want an excuse to start issuing S60 or breach of the peace orders and cordoning off, then a smashed window will usually suffice. We could worse than try as the 'tutte bianche' did in Genoa and try and restrict this kind of behaviour from members of the demo.

BTW I was thinking about a counter S60 direct action. How about putting unsavoury stuff in bags that the police have to search through? Used cat litter in my handbag might make them think again about searching me.

phew!

Loop


s60 orders

27.07.2001 12:24

Advice on s60 orders was widely posted prior to Mayday. Obviously we hope that s60 will not be used tomorrow (and it is not the only law which can be used to break up protests) but the main points to consider are:
1. s60 allows police to search people for weapons - it is not supposed to be used to detain people (or prevent a supposed breach of the peace or any other nonsense).
2. You do not have to give your name and address or answer any questions.
3. Intimate seaches are not allowed.
4. You can be requested to remove items conceiling facial identity - refusal is a criminal offfence (but an arrest for being masked up itself is unlawful).
5. You do not have to carry any form of ID (passports, credit cards etc) - so leave them at home (with your address book and diary).

LDMG
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REPLY TO Just Cause

27.07.2001 15:32

Just Cause,

I can see you are a real man, a warrior, a macho.
I am, instead, a coward, a moron, a wanker.

Now, if you really are of such noble principles, then where the fuck is your pleasure in drawing police violence on those who don't want anything to do with violence?

If you are such a fearless figure, why don't you run your violent attack far from the crowd? Why mix with the sheeps that we are? We stink of shit, don't you know?

I can see you haven't realise that you're giving the game away. You and your actions are giving them the chance to attack (not that they need it much, as Loop was rightly pointing out) and to denigrate. And it's a total fucking waste of the biggest opportunity we have ever had, if you ask me.

They are panicking, 'cos they can't label the movement, 'cos the movement it's not you or any other group, it's not a party, the movement is all of us, the people. And it's always easy for them to corner a group, ready for the butchering. But they've never found it easy to deal with the people.

And I've had enough of all of you superhuman, fighters, real comrades, so bold, so courageous, plenty of oh-so-mighty knowledge of politics and history, who are still so blindly naive to give the game away.

So, I'll go, 'cos I can't stand nor an authority who is trying to scare me into no longer exercising my rights to demonstrate, nor I can stand you people that are exactly realising their plan, but I'll make sure that if you haven't got the balls to stay away from me and play the hero on your own, I'll do it for you and step aside.

I hope that most of those who'll go there tomorrow have removed the bricks of propaganda from their heads.





max


Things to do on Saturday

28.07.2001 00:53

Whatever we do, the police will do what they want.
Period.
_____________________*However*___________________

The most effective demonstration of what we believe
(that state power corrupts, always and absolutely,
if not permanently) is the reactions of the state to our actions.

I've seen the most *amazing* conversions of people, just from the Mayday footage of the protesters in London being beaten.

Yes, the state will start trouble. Do a google search on Frank Kitson, Low Intensity Operations.

Yes, some of us that have been brutalised before will start trouble.

But still,
we will appear again and again,
we will put forth our peaceful messages,
and their repression of us will convert those we could never convert by our own arguments.

But I'd still recommend taking padding.


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