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"You Be the Messiah?"

Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger | 22.05.2001 17:15

Are you all ready to throw off your shackles of trivia and banality, so you can complete your mission on earth?

Dear UK; With the return of the fabricated conflict in the Middle East to the front pages; I'm sure that they have you convinced that there is nothing else that matters. There is no stopping fools in their folly, and they will probably not stop until Damascus is a "heap of ruins" (Isaiah 17:1). It is probably a ruse to get you to come out and oppose what they have set up over there, for as Protocol # 12 of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion reads: "THAT AMONG THOSE MAKING ATTACKS ON US WILL ALSO BE ORGANS ESTABLISHED BY US, BUT THEY WILL ATTACK EXCLUSIVELY POIINTS THAT WE HAVE PREDETERMINED TO ALTER". It's like: "you throw rocks at us, we'll shoot you to keep the persecuted people myth alive." There will come a day when people will say: "they shall stay here no longer" (Lamentations 4:15); but there are more pressing matters to be dealt with beforehand.

Sure they have all been saying: "No Body is Going to do Nothing about....." Id=41739 "The Concealed Holocaust" Id=35206 that resulted in the fomation of "Israel, A Kingdom that Cannot be Shaken" Id=41296; but little did they know that Some Body is Going to do Everything about It! In reading the abovementioned articles on www.indymedia.org.; you will find that provisions have been made for the appearance of multiple Messiahs named Jesus Christ. You probably have a wealth of Messiah-wannabes over there; that is those who say that nobody is gonna do nothing about it or that nothing is going to happen. These Messiah-wannabes have acted as saviours of their people by opposing innocent people who were not opposing them; and what a group their people are! The trivia and banality on Indy Media is a sign of their presence there. There are ways to make the hunters into the hunted, and that has been addressed in my writings. To access these articles via Id #s, access any article, change the Id=# in the address bar, and press "Enter". Since the lawless ones have apparently been using computers to target people, you will find that they fall into their own trap with a little ingenuity on your part. You might also want to find out what made those apocalyptic rains fall in Congo a few days ago. Maybe there is a "rain dance" that you can do for your crops. Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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"Front Page Please!"

22.05.2001 17:20

Dear Readers: This article should be automatically posted on the front page by my pressing the reload button; but it never happens. Please see that it is soon place there. Thank you. Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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interesting

22.05.2001 17:23

banality and trivia everywhere on indymedia - you must use ingenuity to circumnavigate the conspiracy of the lawless ones by changing the url of the article you wish to view

hey bobby - have you got a website where we can read more of your writings?

z0r033

Look stop this you foolish one

22.05.2001 17:40

Look bobby, I've seen you use this tactic of almost immediatly posting a follow up complaining of an imc computer lawless conspiracy on lots of other posts and on other imc sites and explanations have been given to you.

There is not a lawless conspiracy to stop your articles appearing INSTANTLY on the frontpage newswire - this has been explained to you by several people. Sometimes the website works quickly sometimes it does not, end of story. You should stop following up your posts with WHY IS THIS NOT ON THE FRONTPAGE posts, it's just being devisive.

I've used imc sites for some time now and have had exactly the same experience - I've uploaded, but it's not on the frontpage, but it is in the 'view all stories' version of the newswire. Sometimes the delay can be HOURS. I do not complain, it's obvious it's the database creaking.

And before you say this is proof of some imc (uk or global or any of the other sites you post so often to) conspiracy, this has happened to both 'important' posts and no doubt what you would call trivial posts.

Get a life.

(ps when this so called 'article' of yours does appear listed in the frontpage newswire it'll be because that's when the database has cycled around to including it, and not because some lawless imc conspiracy fears that you have outed it and so complies with your 2nd post demand to be placed on the frontpage)

Get it right!!!

What?

22.05.2001 22:10

Don't know what the hell this guy's talking about, but sticking a quote from that old anti-semitic forgery, 'the protocols of the elders of zion' makes it a pile of wank in any case. The point in attacking Israel is that the leadership of the country is pursuing a course of apartheid and violent repression, it has nothing to do with religion or ethnic background. Some of the strongest criticisms of Israel's attack on the Palestinian people comes from Jews, both in Israel and outside.

not rupert marsh

4th time now bobby,call me NOW!

22.05.2001 23:42

Take your protocols of the elders of zion and shove them hard up your lily homophobic arsehole,respectfully up yours,md

matt o'dwyer
mail e-mail: mattdw@iprimus.com.au

"Comment from Author"

23.05.2001 00:16

Dear Readers and Commentors; In the past I have had four or more articles removed from the postings when they never made it on to the front page. This means that I had to type them a second time. Apparently it is easier for hackers or whoever to remove them if they don't make front page. I have also lost seven or more comments and several articles outright with no explanation for their disappearance. On almost every Indy Media site the article will appear on the front page instantly, or it is probably a sign of tampering, probably so that the "STorm Troopers" or their compatriots can trifle with the article. The rate of progress of the article numbers alone is probably a sign of tampering, for their is sometimes 400 to 500 spaces used up in a day.

Homophobia means that one fears homosexuality not as these people seem to contend that it means that one hates homosexuality. This is what I get for promoting the only given way of saving gays from God's condemnation of them.

The Protocols have never been refuted by anyone apparently. You might do so at once to clarify what is happening. Don't forget that the Plans of the Synagogue of Satan say just as much as the Protocols and they are also readily available on www.google.com..

As for the professed opposition of certain Jews to the occupation, it is probably a ruse to trick you into voicing your own opposition to it even if they would have you believe otherwise.

The Commentor talking about race seems confused. What race is the Semite race? How did the Turko-Mongols get in there? What happen to the Ethiopian Semites?

To the commentors I say: "Nice of you all to come and worship. You sound mighty holy today."

Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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evolve bobby

23.05.2001 01:41

i've assesed you bobby

go back to the garden and evolve

the war in the middle east is not "fabricated"

this makes the rest of what you say irrelevant

so are you irrelevant... also offensive, bigotted, and twisted




























twat

george jnr
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TROLL

23.05.2001 09:48


This guy's stirring shit up all over indymedia sites and provoking arguement and HATE.

Just do a search on his name on www.indymedia.org to see the huge number of his rants and resultant replies.

TROLL: trying to lure other Internet users into sending responses to carefully-designed incorrect statements or similar "bait."

Oh and Bobby - quit that shit about STorm Trooper hackers intercepting your posts. If there is a campaign against your posts by some group of people then I shouldn't worry about them because they are not very good at it given the number of your postings available on Indymedia sites across the world.

it's obvious

revelation

23.05.2001 09:57

Leave these children be! Fool! The children of Albion are mine!

Beelzebubbles

why are you on indymedia??

23.05.2001 12:44

Indymedia is a great thing - it lets people express any view they want, to a large number of people. As such, I think it's a real and positive step towards freedom from corporate media, that is, freedom from dogmatism in the media, and more generally, dogmatism of all kinds.
Now, Bobby, what I don't understand is how you found out about this site, and why it appeals to you. Don't get me wrong, I think its great that you can come on here and express your views (which, to be frank, I find a little hard to follow, but then it sounds like you've got some inside knowledge that I don't...), and I certainly would not want people holding your views to be 'banned' from expressing them. But you're really not interested in the idea of an independent media at all are you? If you were, or you were even just interested in free-thinking, you wouldn't be quoting endless reams of stuff written hundreds of years ago, and passing it off, unquestioned, as the truth. Great, I'm gald you've read this stuff, but just because someone once said this was the case, that doesn't mean you should quote it without thinking about the various good and bad points it expresses.
Like I said, I admit my ignorance concerning the people you quoted, and I even admit my ignorance of whatever the hell it is you're ranting about. But while your posting on this site, and formulating your conspiracy theories, why not have a look around - read some articles by people trying to free themselves from cultural indoctrination, and realise that you could do that too.
Or just keep ranting. Wouldn't want to dictate what you should do...

jamie

Read 'em and weep

23.05.2001 14:08

For one hundred years and as many million dollars, they have tried to refute the Protocols of Zion, yet they won't go away and still accurately recount the past, present and future.

“Whosoever was the mind that conceived them possessed a knowledge of human nature, of history, and of statecraft which is dazzling in its brilliant completeness, and terrible in the objects to which it turns its powers.

It is too terribly real for fiction, too well sustained for speculation, too deep in its knowledge of the secret springs of life for forgery.”

“The United Nations is Zionism. It is the Super Government mentioned many times in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion promulgated between 1897 and 1905.”

Henry Klein,
New York Jewish Lawyer,
In Zionism Rules the World, 1948.



Angeldust

ALERT THIS IS ANTISEMITIC

23.05.2001 14:54

THIS PIECE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE STUFF THAT SHOULD BE EDITED OUT.

bill bore

Read 'em and weep

23.05.2001 15:11

For one hundred years and as many millions of dollars, they have tried to refute the Protocols of Zion, but they just won’t go away and still, accurately recount the past, present and future.

“Whosoever was the mind that conceived them possessed a knowledge of human nature, of history, and of statecraft which is dazzling in its brilliant completeness, and terrible in the objects to which it turns its powers. It is too terribly real for fiction, too well sustained for speculation, too deep in its knowledge of the secret springs of life for forgery.”

“The United Nations is Zionism. It is the Super Government mentioned many times in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion promulgated between 1897 and 1905.”

Henry Klein,
New York Jewish Lawyer,
In Zionism Rules the World, 1948.


Angeldust

Deaf messenger?

23.05.2001 17:14

I'm deaf, and I'm also by coindience an activist. Amongst other things, I campaign with other people on deaf issues, such as the reconition of British Sign Language, which currently has no legal status in this country. [The Govt is ignoring an EU resolution for all member states to reconise their native sign languages, which has been taken up by every EU country except the UK]

Since you call yourself on Indymedia 'Deaf Messenger', are you also a deaf activist? I'd be interested to read anything from you that shows an awareness of deaf issues in your neck of the woods, which you have stated in your address is in the USA, though I don't quite understand why you want to post on the UK indymedia site instead of your own local site.

Furthermore, this is a site for reporting actions. Why don't you go and do some actions, or take part in some, or organise your own actions, and we will love to hear about your experiences. Until then, sorry, i'm not really interested in Jah-fuelled speculations.

Note: we have our own movement of Jah people in the UK, the Exodus collective in Luton, wonderful people who work 365 days of the year, for nearly 10 years now, helping local people and organising actions and raves to break out of Babylon. I did some tree planting with them last year, and they are an ace bunch. Why don't you look them up on the net? Bobby, try entering 'exodus luton' into  http://www.google.com

-luther blissett 'Deaf Activist'

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"What? Who? Huh? Duh?"

23.05.2001 18:00

Dear Commentors: To the lawless posters of trivia and banality, I say that I was here first. You were probably summoned to clog this site with your emptyheaded ramblings after I showed up in February. Go look at the rate of daily postings before that.

To Luther Blisset I say that I graduated Magna Cum Laude from Gallaudet University in Washington, DC with a degree in Therapeutic Recreation, a department that I helped established under the guidance of a professor imported from Southern Illinois University. Once it was established, they got rid of both me and the professor; and it is probably now teaching a mockery of TR if it is still accreditted at all.

I was also pivotal in starting the Deaf President Now movement that transformed Gallaudet from a college into a university, for I wrote an article for the school newspaper on American Sign Language. I made clear that ASL has French syntax, and there has been no effort to develop an effective way to communicate in sign language via English in order to continue the isolation of the deaf community. Of course they will come out with fabrications about the beauty of ASL; but the reality is that it is a ruse to prevent deaf people from learning how to speak, for ASL cannot be spoken at all. I have met people who were born deaf who can speak English better than most hearing people, and it was the result of persistant effort on the part of their parents to teach them. Instead of promoting such effort, it seems like the deaf community would prefer to make it a crime for deaf people to speak.

As for the commentors who can't understand. Tell me which of my articles you have read. Paraphrase a sentence or two of mine to show me what is registering in your head. Chances are that you are not reading a word that I write, and you are just professing ignorance to promote ignorance. Nice of you to come and worship. You sound mighty holy today.

Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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No Comprende

23.05.2001 18:51

Why is it rascist to believe that the Protocols are a genuine document as oppossed to a fabrication? If they were written by the 'Learned Elders of Ireland,' would you automatically be Anti-Celtic for mentioning it?

Amigo

To Bobby Israel Meade 'Deaf Messenger'

23.05.2001 22:36

Well Bobby,

Thanks for replying, and I respect that. Therapeutic Recreation is still offered as a degree by Gallaudet, (I looked on the website) so it seems your efforts haven't been in vain.

However I couldn't find your name anywhere in the alumini lists - I'm not too bothered by that as it may or may not be your real name - I'm not going to ask for your real name.

Re: sign and speech - I don't know about USA deaf activists, but in the UK the deaf culture is more inclusive, and deafies who speak are perfectly welcome as long as they learn some BSL. Europe is more of a multi-lingual area, and I have many deafie friends who read in 4 or 5 hearing languages as well as speak 5 or more different sign languages.

The problem here in the UK is that the establishment is very strongly against BSL - I along with most deaf people was forbidden to learn BSL, or to speak in sign while I was at school, while I was a kid. So u see we have rather different problems. We campaign for bilingual education.

Here, the medical authorities say that deaf children must be *prevented* from learning BSL, with predictably horrendous effects. Indeed some deaf people can learn to speak, we dont have a problem with that. the thing is that here, ALL deaf children are punished when they sign, are smacked and abused when they try to communicate in our own natural language, and the random few who learn to speak are held up as shining examples to all the rest, who are cast aside by the education system as 'failures'.

I'm perfectly happy for all deaf kids to get some training in speech, but they must ALSO get lessons in BSL, not have their whole education thrown to one side for hours and hours of speech therapy per day which is what tends to happen to most deaf kids here (including me) and ends in the average deaf kid leaving school with an average reading age of 12.

anyway, enough. Bobby, I do not agree with much of what you say, and you seem to spend 10 hours a day posting stuff and reading replies to your posts, but if you are ever in the uk, please come over and meet some UK deaf activists.

that is a definite invitation.

If you want, email me above and we can talk further - it is rare to see other deaf activists on the web.

I should warn you though that I'm gay and jewish, a combination of the two groups you most love to rant about, or are you just trying to push people's buttons?

-tomato

Luther Blisset
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"To Luther Blisset"

24.05.2001 00:34

Dear Luther; My name should be down for 88 at Gallaudet. If they are offering something like "Activity Therapy" as opposed to "Therapeutic Recreation"; please understand they are different fields with different approaches. Sounds like you would be right at home in the type of deaf community that they have promoted over here. I can back up every word that I say from the Bible. I am not ranting about anything. Check out "Israel, A Kingdom that Cannot be Shaken" Id= 41296, and understand that is how Israel was supposed to be formed. All of the Israelites were destined to fall. I am an alien in Israel. That is why I write my name, "Israel". Frankly I never got along really well with the majority of the deaf students at Gallaudet. I went through Cornell BS 76 without revealing that I was deaf. The advances in phonetics should make it possible to teach any deaf person how to speak. If you argue for your limitations, they are yours. The whole world is destined to hate me because I am His witness of Revelation 11 in addition to being His messenger of Isaiah 42:19. This is the best way to communicate with me. I am not that prolific of a poster, and I rarely make more than four or five postings on any day. Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

PS Check out "Cpl. Theodore Wolf: Rest in Peace" Id=42638; posted today.

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Our Bobby

24.05.2001 03:56

Don't quote me, but I think I know who Bobby is. A few months ago I was browsing a webiste that is dedicated to rooting out cyber nutters. There was one such nutter who referred to himself as MarsRules (thinks he's from Mars), and preached in a similar anti-Semitic, homophobic way. Iread some of the stuff he spouted, and there seem to be a number of similarities in his style. Basically, this guy operates under a number of pseudonyms (even generating replies to his letters from fake supporters) , and lives to piss people off, sow dischord and spread confusion. Bobby, sorry if you're not the guy I think you are (but you always deny your pseudonyms anyway), but can't you actually use Indymedia as a forum for constructive new politics rather than apocalyptic rantings from the innards of the new testament - don't reckon many readers would have apprecciated the homophobia much, either.

Seperately, I'd be interested to hear all sides of the debate regarding the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - I mean, is there really evidence from either side that can support or refute the claim that it's fake?

Bendeus

It came true

24.05.2001 07:32

"I'd be interested to hear all sides of the debate regarding the Protocols of the Elders of Zion"

This is a good point, because if it is the blueprint for the 20th Century and beyond, heinous in it's content and intent, fact or fake...it requires serious debate and discussion.

The old Anti-Semitic chant is sounding hollow!

Amigo

its one of the oldest

24.05.2001 13:35

perhaps the first *conspiracy theory*, absolute nonsense and beloved of rightwing nutters who have no class analysis CONSPIRACY THEORY RESTS ON A PARADOX OF EVIDENCE, THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO DISPROVE ANYTHING, WHEREAS THE ONUS OF PROOF IS ON THOSE WHO ASSERT.they refuse, because they cannot. its a kind of degenerate religion. avoid it.

h p sauce

"Misunderstanding All Yours!"

24.05.2001 15:54

Dear Readers: I just got done printing some articles, which were available for printing for the first time. I found that the "Supreme "Narky".." Id=31749 was hard to access; but I was able to access it by going to 31750 first.

Now "Bendeus" has been sounding holy. Have things changed since this morning? Why say I am homophobic when homophobia means that one fears homosexuality? I have never been anti-gay. If you are saying a homophobe hates homosexuality, why coin a new word? "Homosexist"? "Homomania"? "Homomordia"? Same goes for saying I am anti-Semite. Who are the Semites? Are they a race? Are they the ones who have been rubbing other alleged Semites the right way? Are they the ones who got nose jobs? I do not deny my names or titles at all. I gave the name Israel to the country established by Sarah and Jennifer, "blossoms in the field". I am still "Israel", the Deaf Messenger; but Israel is now on its way to becoming the biggest thing on earth. Apocalyptic news certainly has its place in this day and age. Woodstock was an attempt of man to form his own version of God's kingdom on earth; a kingdom based on love, peace, sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll. Why didn't you make an issue of that?

The Protocols were probably never refuted because they would probably move on anyone who even mentioned them. In other words they were a trap. It is easy to make them fall into their own trap; but they would probably prefer to stage a war in the Middle East to change the subject. They will probably even make Damascus a "heap of ruins" (Isaiah 17:1) to keep their lies alive. As they have done, will be done to them. Their lawlessness will come back on their own heads. Maybe the trick is to get them to verify their Messianic aspirations, then say; "Aha! Jesus Christ, you come with me over to this tree!"

Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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evolve bobby please?

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george jnr
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"Update for UK"

26.05.2001 21:59

Dear UK; I am writing to inform you that I posted "Cpl. Theodore Wolf: Rest in Peace" Id=42638; "Rigging the Messenger for Disaster" Id=42982; and "Rigging the Messenger (cont.)" Id=43171 this week. These articles describe the "bloom" of lawlessness in DC in the nineties. Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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Read this, Bobby.

01.06.2001 02:18

Bobby

I'm Deaf. You're deaf (apparently)

We both are Deaf. Deaf people stick together and support each other.

In your case, I make an exception.


twat


Gavin

Gavin Lilley
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"STOLEN WORDS!"

01.06.2001 15:05

Dear UK; Yesterday I posted "The Dwelling of Violence" Id=5631 here; and the text of this plus or minus 1200 word article was stolen. Then I posted "Contrived Organized Stupidity" Id=5638, after rewriting the article from memory. Late in the day the UK IMC board was trifled with so that nothing current was displayed, and today both articles have been removed from the pages but are available via Id #s. It seems like the lawless ones are afraid that their own lawlessness may come back on their heads. Be sure to read "Messiahs in the Making" Id=43985 also, for these interlopers are apparently Messiah-wannabes intent on saving their compatriots from the truth or from innocent people who are not opposing them. Maybe if the all start walking like the "Storm Troopers" with their "tails in between their legs" people will let them continue.

To "Gavin Lilley" I say those are pretty big words. Are you trying to save someone from what I am saying? Do you feel holy today?

Respectfully yours, Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger

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review of your piece

20.07.2001 23:57

Robert Meade "Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger - what a fantastic piece. your parody of conspiracy theorist is in a class of its own. i am flabbergasted that no one has quite cottoned on to the fact that you manage to stay in character, on-line, at all times. that's pretty amazing, and that you have managed to hoodwink the entire on-line indymedia community is unbelievable. kudos to you! the biblical references are hilarious, the "redneck" anti-queer rants are so on point - proving that we are so sensitive that we cannot determine art which is parodic in nature if it is shoved underneath our noses! i will try as much as possible to let people know on every indy media site that you are doing such a great job of deconstructing on-line white privilege with a "oppressor" position.

andrew

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