Drag and drop It will be boring when we all agree... (english) by mahomed matt 11:30pm Sun May 20 '01 phone: 0417 531 548 mattdw@iprimus.com.au
I placed this at ovIMC where I 1st saw it.I think chomsky agrees with nelson.anyway... Sun May 20 22:31:30 2001 -- Peace through violent threats
proffr aka matt - spearhead@bombbomb.com Makes perfect sense to me,but,hey,thats just me. Heres my 2cents on the middle east. The situation around the entire med.is moving toward ecological catastrophe. All the signs are there as you look around. Yet this presents a unique chance for relative peace in the middle east. The global rolling revolution of eco-anarchists may link up with the jews for peace and the progressive arabs. When the shields are down and all borders abolished then the paymaster of state terror,the last empire may be taken apart. Radical problems require radical solutions. Shoah,never again. 1948,never again. Peace,bread and anarchy for the meditteranean. It is our sea of dreams.
As ever, Nelson Mandela, with all his experience, is a voice of reason, in a sea of madness. Take heed to his words Israel and anyone else who chooses to persecute populations in their midst, we know from history that it can only be a harbringer of horror, and the righteous will not tolerate this rife hatred in A New Age of freedom and justice for all.
Be bold! Be fearless! Be free! Awake! Arise! And march forward!
Nelson, Could you comment on the rights that Palestinans enjoy in other Arab nations, of for that matter, the rights Jews have there?
Thanks, Tom
Let me comment of the rights of American Jews, they own the Federal Reserve, The World Bank, Hollywood, AOL/Time Warner, The Secretary of Defence is a jew and the last several Secretaries of State, also many Presidents. They own every major newspaper, are Mayors of Cities, Lecturers at Universities and generally speaking, control the World...hardly an oppressed nation, Mr.Fiedman!
The American Jewish elite embraced the cause of Israel and created the contemporary image of the Holocaust.
Norman Finkelstein highlights the power of this elite by pointing out that Jewish income is almost double that of non-Jews, 16 of the 40 wealthiest Americans are Jews, 40% of Nobel prizewinners in science and economics are Jewish, 20% of professors at main universities are Jewish, as are 40% of partners in law firms in New York and Washington.
Finkelstein mentions that even the deaths of 10m Africans in the Congo as a result of the Belgian ivory and rubber trade - is often met with accusations of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
There is not one memorial for the gypsies and the mentally and physically disabled, or homosexuals who died under Nazism. Finkelstein says that a higher proportion of the gypsy population of Europe died than of the Jewish.
And, at his most scathing, Finkelstein points out that there are no memorials to the tens of millions who died in the slave trade or in the genocidal campaign against the American Indians.
The presence of the Holocaust Museum in Washington "is particularly incongruous in the absence of a museum commemorating crimes in the course of American history".
He would like the Israeli case to be more rationally considered and, though he acknowledges the ethnic loss involved in assimilation, he prefers the Martin Luther King position that people should come together irrespective of the colour of their skin, their race or their beliefs.
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Anonymous coward
21.05.2001 08:08
It will be boring when we all agree... (english)
by mahomed matt 11:30pm Sun May 20 '01
phone: 0417 531 548
I placed this at ovIMC where I 1st saw it.I think chomsky agrees with nelson.anyway...
Sun May 20 22:31:30 2001
-- Peace through violent threats
proffr aka matt
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Makes perfect sense to me,but,hey,thats just me. Heres my 2cents on the middle east. The situation around the entire med.is moving toward ecological catastrophe. All the signs are there as you look around. Yet this presents a unique chance for relative peace in the middle east. The global rolling revolution of eco-anarchists may link up with the jews for peace and the progressive arabs. When the shields are down and all borders abolished then the paymaster of state terror,the last empire may be taken apart. Radical problems require radical solutions. Shoah,never again. 1948,never again. Peace,bread and anarchy for the meditteranean. It is our sea of dreams.
see above
Amandla!
21.05.2001 09:21
Be bold! Be fearless! Be free! Awake! Arise! And march forward!
Shaka Zulu
Okay
21.05.2001 10:45
Nelson,
Could you comment on the rights that Palestinans enjoy in other Arab nations, of for that matter, the rights Jews have there?
Thanks,
Tom
Let me comment of the rights of American Jews, they own the Federal Reserve, The World Bank, Hollywood, AOL/Time Warner, The Secretary of Defence is a jew and the last several Secretaries of State, also many Presidents. They own every major newspaper, are Mayors of Cities, Lecturers at Universities and generally speaking, control the World...hardly an oppressed nation, Mr.Fiedman!
Anon
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21.05.2001 13:16
Norman Finkelstein highlights the power of this elite by pointing out that Jewish income is almost double that of non-Jews, 16 of the 40 wealthiest Americans are Jews, 40% of Nobel prizewinners in science and economics are Jewish, 20% of professors at main universities are Jewish, as are 40% of partners in law firms in New York and Washington.
Finkelstein mentions that even the deaths of 10m Africans in the Congo as a result of the Belgian ivory and rubber trade - is often met with accusations of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
There is not one memorial for the gypsies and the mentally and physically disabled, or homosexuals who died under Nazism. Finkelstein says that a higher proportion of the gypsy population of Europe died than of the Jewish.
And, at his most scathing, Finkelstein points out that there are no memorials to the tens of millions who died in the slave trade or in the genocidal campaign against the American Indians.
The presence of the Holocaust Museum in Washington "is particularly incongruous in the absence of a museum commemorating crimes in the course of American history".
He would like the Israeli case to be more rationally considered and, though he acknowledges the ethnic loss involved in assimilation, he prefers the Martin Luther King position that people should come together irrespective of the colour of their skin, their race or their beliefs.
Norm.