More on Oxford Street
indy | 01.05.2001 19:27
Since 7.45pm, police applying Section 60 in Oxford Circus are slowly leting people out either in very small groups or individually. We can't assure if they are abusing their powers collecting personal data and photographs. They are only allowed to search FOR WEAPONS and never ask remove any other clothes than those covering the person's identity.
indy
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The police have no right to abuse our liberty
01.05.2001 19:58
the so-called 'law' of the UK Nation State. We are not subjects of the State (Authoritarian State Capitalism). The governments of the world belong to the same party, though they never speak its name, and it has never been given a name - for that name would be the Fear Fuckers. Together they consort to instill fear among our fragile family (the human race) in order to maintain their control, wealth and privelige. By War and Trade War they put down the weak, starve the poor and destroy education and health services in the developing nations. Their social reality is your social reality - because when you turn on the TV or radio - it is the same voice that you hear. We are not subject to LAW because there is no such thing - those were only ideas taught into you at school (before and after). We live together in peace because that's our Good human nature - but Capitalism (and materialism) pushes us apart - we still need our communities. We need to start by helping each other, and then we can help ourselves (as a whole) - but we need to build up that whole again. The police have no right to abuse your liberty, and you have every right to use any means you see fit to defend yourselves and the rest of the human race from drones (police). It order to be able to join the State forces, I would imagine you would have to be pretty brainwashed (braindead). I think the UK MayDay peoples have done a fine job today - we should do it again and again and again and again and again. Maybe together people will regain consciousness from societal cataracts
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And you have no right to make a fuss!
01.05.2001 20:29
While the 1960s saw the rise of the rebel without a cause, the 2000s seem to have seen the genesis of an ever more pathetic individual: the rebel without a clue. These people are swarming to every summit of relevance and making a pain of themselves... and why? To Make Their Voice Heard? Was it not recently in Prague that exponents of the World Bank invited protesters to debate and they refused? Wouldn't that tend to suggest they don't have the slightest idea what they're doing, and that what they do and say, they do for the sake of random mayhem rather than anything else? They commence with an urge to protest, and inevitably they find something to protest against. It's pretty pathetic.
Someone_Else
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fuss fuss fuss
01.05.2001 21:09
Mary
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WET BLANKET
01.05.2001 23:08
Norman
The State, Taxes, and Daft Protests
02.05.2001 09:19
Paying your taxes is a small inconvenience compared to the benefits you receive, I would say. The state does not deprive you of liberty - believing that is plain naive - on the contrary it gives you liberty, by granting you security. Just ask anyone that has lived in a country where the state has collapsed.
I am by no means opposed criticism of how these states conduct their affairs, or of the "capitalist" system. Quite the contrary, if we ever hope to improve the lot of those that do not achieve decent standards of living (wherever they are in the worl), criticism is imperative. What is terrifying is that these protesters truly haven't got a clue what they're doing. They are in denial. They simply cannot accept that the world is a highly complex place, and may not be amenable to crudely simplistic - if idealistic - solutions. (a case in point is recent protests against big companies employing labour in the third world at very low wages. Protests have amazingly enough been successful, and these companies have paid them heed. But the result has just been that a lot of people who previously subsisted on low wages, are now without a job and any wage at all. I'm sure they're really grateful to their enlightened champions in the West.)
If only someone would care enough to channel all these energies into a worthwile cause, without an articulated aim (i.e. an alternative to that which is protested against), rather than just random bottling throwing and disruption. The issues they proclaim to be concerned about are far to serious to be left to a naive and ignorant mob that doesn't know what to do beyond being angry.
Someone_Else
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