Madrassa Massacre

Ironic | 31.10.2006 13:21 | Anti-militarism | Anti-racism | Repression

Prince Charles preaches religious tolerance in Pakistan, as the US destroys a religious school killing eighty innocent people.

The United States launched missiles from a Predator drone on a Madrassa in the Bajaur district of Pakistan. They claim it was an extrajudicial killing attempt on Ayman al Zawahiri, but they massacred over eighty young religious students instead, ranging from 15 to 25 years of age. Locals say none were militants.

The US has no authority under international law to launch attacks on sovereign Pakistani soil. The compound was utterly demolished and only three survivors were recovered. The murders were timed to coincide with Prince Charles visit to Pakistan, where he praised General Musharraf's tough stance on terror.

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How do you know this?

31.10.2006 13:35

Undeniably an attack by Musharaff has taken place but how do you know the victime were all innocent? You think they were that is what you are saying if the US use propaganda for their aims in this instance so do you either unwittingly or not!

Arthur

Thats the bloody point

31.10.2006 14:51

How do we know, unless through the process of law, trial by a jury of your peers, with representation and knowing what the charges are against you.

Ugly amerikan death suckers utilizing the zionist/tulmuldist priciple of kill kill kill will NOT result in a fairer safer more peaceful world ... the opposit in fact.

Deep deep shame upon those who think otherwise.

jsl

Calm down mate!

31.10.2006 16:41

My point was sensible yours was an ill though out rant! If you just want to spout Al Qaeda propaganda fair enough but my point is we may not yet know what exactly has happened here so it pays to reserve judgment on it! The dead may be civilians, it may have been carried out by Pakistan or the US or it may be a targeted strike that has killed Al Qaeda we do not know.

Arthur

Collective Punishment is illegal

31.10.2006 18:30

If the eighty dead were all rampant Islamic insurgents planning a jihad, it still does not grant Pakistan or the USA the right to murder them in cold blood, without any recourse.

If British intelligence believe a wanted militant is residing at a house in Bradford, possibly manufacturing a bomb, does that mean the army can massacre the whole neighbourhood?

Ironic

ill though out rant

31.10.2006 19:55

my arse.

80 + dead teenagers is a crime against humanity ... from the same sponsors as many many many others.

In fact on numbers alone, were the common or garden alien to land upon us and be asked who the 'terrorists' in the war on terra were ... there is no doubting where there answer would lean.

And it aint muslims.

jsl

Stating accusations as fact!

01.11.2006 06:00

In this war both sides use propaganda now jsl there must be one hell of a view from your armchair as you claim without quoting a single identifiable source that all of these 80 people were innocent teenagers in spite of the fact you have absolutely no way of knowing that! The point about collective punishments made by ironic is a much better one but comparing the actions undertaken by Pakistan in a war zone to Bradford completely misses the point. Musharaf can't exactly send Dixon of Dock green round to arrest the leaders of an Al Qaeda affiliated madrassa and it's horde of Jihadists can he? These people are plotting to kill him and attack the west using amongst other things suicide bombers. Musharaf if he pinpoints them is then acting in self defense when he attacks, not least as these guys are in breach of a recent truce he negotiated with the tribal authorities in this area to expel militants! Now you may think what I said was propaganda? Or even call me absurdly a Zionist but I think it acts as a balance to jsls ranting al Qaeda propaganda.

Arthur

Another comparison then...

01.11.2006 08:30

So you don't want to compare actions taken in a "war zone" to Bradford, yet if the UK military and police dealt with suspected Islamic extremism in the same way as in Pakistan, then surely Bradford and many other areas would indeed be a war zone! I think the comparison stands. If you feel it doesn't, how about one from a war zone, such as the firebombing of Dresden- undoubtedly there were some Nazi military personnel there, but does that justify wantonly killing so many civilians? You also seem to be suggesting that I should be supporting the Pakistani military regime here, and its right to "self-defense". Frankly I couldn't give a shit about Musharaf, neither he nor Islamic fundamentalists stand for anything worth supporting. And if you're going to say Islamic fundamentalists want to attack the West as well, then I'd have to say that just leads back to the whole issue of Western foreign policy, rather than Bush's vision of Islamic hordes who hate our "freedom"...

Surprisingly peace agreement struck

01.11.2006 10:57

82 die as missiles rain on Bajaur: Pakistan owns up to strike; locals blame US drones
...
Surprisingly, the strike on Damadola, the second since January, came the day the government was expected to sign a peace agreement with militants in Bajaur replicating the September 5 truce reached with militants in North Waziristan.

The peace agreement, had it been signed, would have resulted in the grant of a pardon to the two most wanted militants, Maulana Faqir Mohammad and Maulvi Liaqat. Both had been charged with harbouring and providing shelter to Al Qaeda operatives.
...

http://www.dawn.com/2006/10/31/top1.htm

dawn October 31, 2006

Forget it jsl.

01.11.2006 11:47

You are on a hiding to nothing trying to debate with someone with the mentality of a sun reader.

The very fact that they throw around the term 'al quida' - even if only as a stick to beat you with, indicates they have swallowed the war on terror story lock stock and barrel. As far as I can tell, their efforts are probably only directed at winding [us] up and distracting from their own inheriently inconsistant, incomprehensible and ignorant views.

king bored

yes, lets calm down and wait

01.11.2006 11:55

wait for the enquiry ...

but only when the war is over

but only when our troops are out of harms way

but only when the enemy is defeated

... and if the enquiry (at some unspecified date long in the future) turns out the notion that:

the war was bogus

our troops died for no reason

the enemy turned out to be those swine sitting on the wests resources

... lets hope we get a solid apology ... that will make it all right.

I haven't the time to unravel the convoluted reasoning behind your smug assertions, and neither do I want to, as they stand as a marker for the arrogant western racism that is reaping so much self evident havoc on the world and its survival mechanisms.

Post my useful idiot, post.

jsl