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Paul T (the chemtrail hypothesist ) | 01.08.2006 10:39 | Ecology | Technology | World

Scientist Publishes 'Escape Route' from Global Warming
by Steve Connor

 http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0731-05.htm
Published on Monday, July 31, 2006 by the Independent / UK

Scientist Publishes 'Escape Route' from Global Warming
by Steve Connor

A Nobel Prize-winning scientist has drawn up an emergency plan to save the world from global warming, by altering the chemical makeup of Earth's upper atmosphere. Professor Paul Crutzen, who won a Nobel Prize in 1995 for his work on the hole in the ozone layer, believes that political attempts to limit man-made greenhouse gases are so pitiful that a radical contingency plan is needed.
In a polemical scientific essay to be published in the August issue of the journal Climate Change, he says that an "escape route" is needed if global warming begins to run out of control.

Professor Crutzen has proposed a method of artificially cooling the global climate by releasing particles of sulphur in the upper atmosphere, which would reflect sunlight and heat back into space. The controversial proposal is being taken seriously by scientists because Professor Crutzen has a proven track record in atmospheric research.

A fleet of high-altitude balloons could be used to scatter the sulphur high overhead, or it could even be fired into the atmosphere using heavy artillery shells, said Professor Crutzen, a researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry in Germany.

The effect of scattering sulphate particles in the atmosphere would be to increase the reflectance, or "albedo", of the Earth, which should cause an overall cooling effect.

Such "geo-engineering" of the climate has been suggested before, but Professor Crutzen goes much further by drawing up a detailed model of how it can be done, the timescales involved, and the costs.

In his forthcoming scientific paper, Professor Crutzen emphasises that the best way of averting global climate disaster is for countries to cut back significantly on their emissions of greenhouse gases, notably carbon dioxide produced by burning oil, gas and coal. But in the absence of such measures, and with the average global temperature expected to rise more than 3C this century, there may soon come a time when more extreme measures have to be considered, he said.

"If sizeable reductions in greenhouse gas emissions will not happen and temperatures rise rapidly, then climatic engineering, as presented here, is the only option available to rapidly reduce temperature rises and counteract other climatic effects," Professor Crutzen said.

"Such a modification could also be stopped on short notice, if undesirable and unforeseen side-effects become apparent, which would allow the atmosphere to return to its prior state within a few years," he said.

Such an idea is so controversial that some scientists opposed its publication in the peer-reviewed scientific press, fearing that it may encourage the view that it is easier to treat the symptoms rather than the causes of climate change.

Professor Crutzen, however, argues that the "grossly disappointing" international political response to the necessity of cuts in greenhouse gas emissions means that it should no longer be considered taboo to think about geo-engineering of the climate.

"Importantly, its possibility should not be used to justify inadequate climate policies, but merely to create a possibility to combat potentially drastic climate heating," he said. "The very best would be if emissions of the greenhouse gases could be reduced. Currently, this looks like a pious wish."

His plan is modelled partly on the Mount Pinatubo volcanic eruption in 1991, when thousands of tons of sulphur were ejected into the atmosphere causing global temperatures to fall.

Pinatubo generated sulphate aerosols in the atmosphere which cooled the Earth by 0.5C on average in the following year. The sulphate particles did this by acting like tiny mirrors, preventing a portion of incoming sunlight from reaching the ground.

Professor Crutzen calculated that a relatively small amount of sulphur could cause similar cooling if it was released at high enough altitudes into the stratosphere, rather than at the lower altitude of the troposphere. Weather balloons or even artillery shells could be used to carry the sulphur.

"Although climate cooling by sulphate aerosols also occurs in the troposphere, the great advantage of placing reflective particles in the stratosphere is their long residence time of about one to two years, compared to a week in the troposphere," Professor Crutzen said.

"It may be possible to manufacture a special gas that is only processed photochemically in the stratosphere to yield sulphate," he said. Such a compound should be non-toxic, insoluble in water, non-reactive, and have a relatively short half-life of about 10 years.

It would cost between $25bn and $50bn - or about $25 or $50 per head in the developed world - to launch sufficient sulphate to last for up to two years.

But this high cost should be measured against the much bigger costs of environmental disasters, such as coastal flooding, caused by global warming, he said.

Side-effects could be an increase in the destruction of the ozone layer and whitening of the sky, although the particles would make sunsets and sunrises more spectacular, he said.

Other 'geo-engineering' ideas

* Reflecting mirrors:

Earth's natural reflectance or "albedo" reflects about 30 per cent of sunlight back into space. Increasing the albedo could be done by building giant unfolding mirrors in space, laying reflecting film in the deserts, or floating white plastic islands in the ocean to mimic reflective effect of sea ice.

* Swallowing up CO2:

Marine plankton absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, which the microbes need for photosynthesis. The growth of plankton is limited by the relatively small amounts of iron in the sea. Scientists have conducted experiments on boosting plankton by throwing iron filings into the sea.

© 2006 Independent News and Media Limited




Paul T's Note:
Maybe they could use aeorplane jets to spray it.

I wonder what Scientist thinks.

Paul T (the chemtrail hypothesist )


Comments

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too late.

01.08.2006 13:13

maybe someone should ask this arsehole what is being dispersed by the aircraft laying chemtrails,
he is a bit late with his idea!

smithy


hypothesis

01.08.2006 22:43

Any scientist should and would view this proposal for what it is - a hypothesis. It's not been put into action yet cos it costs a fucking fortune. Conspiracy nutters love to fantasise that they alone know the truth behind any phenomena that their science-phobic minds can't understand. The simple fact is that even a country as corrupt as the US would struggle to consistently bury the massive 25 billion cost of this process from public view if it really was happening now.

And no, he's talking about the stratosphere so normal planes would struggle to make it near to that altitude - 12 miles +. There's bugger all oxygen up there and you're verging on rocket territory. That's why he's recommending balloons or shells. Not sure what happens to the shell casings though. Better dig out your skylab hat.

And smithy, what's being dispersed by planes at present is... wait for it...
shock horror - water! Remove your tinfoil hat and see my earlier responses on this.

a scientist


no

02.08.2006 01:53

it's not water, it takes 4 hours to disperse and a plane cant be filled with water because of the weight.

the thing about chemtrails is you cant hide them or deny them because people just need to look up.
better still, get some impressive snaps with a cam-fone.


and one other thing, it will eventually come down and i suspect that sulphur desolved in rain would become sulphuric-acid.
not something you want on your house/car or head.

this dick is not the first by a long way, other "scientists" have talked about carbon, barium and even metalic-chips.

about cost, the whitehouse "lost" 3.1TRILLION dollars from the books over the past 20years and then if tht sounds like a lot you should google "leo wanta"

money is not a problem for people who can lose or print all they want.

smithy


Some ideas

02.08.2006 04:36

Iron and plankton was an idea but is a non starter:

 http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20040318210325data_trunc_sys.shtml


'chem' trails - tinfoil hats offf boys, its all to do with the amount of water vapour already present in the atmosphere, adding more (ie from combustion of hydrocarbons with oxygen) can catalyse the formation of water droplets in the sky...........not green lizard men, in league with david ike and only prevented from controlling your mind with tin foil hats....

Bob


A message to ' A scientist'

02.08.2006 11:39

I wonder why you try to put me down? you always seem to imply people such as me who have an interest in the field of research known to be associated with the hypothesis of chemtrails as having psychological disfunction, it seems to me from reading your comments.

I ask you again: Are you a qualified psychiatric doctor ? well are you?

If not then, well, of coarse you can say what you like, fair enough, but it is just being overtly aggressive and down right mean.

Do you think you are better than me?

There is no need to be insulting or rude, in my opinion.

kind regards, I mean it.

Paul T.

Paul T


seems I may have been wrong all along

02.08.2006 14:29

see here how chemtrails target and control our sun
see here how chemtrails target and control our sun

Hmm, time to eat humble pie. Well, after reading loads and loads, I stumbled across this site which explains the makeup of chemtrails perfectly. Read it and be very afraid.
Apologies for ever doubting you.
 http://www.dhmo.org/

a scientist
- Homepage: http://www.dhmo.org/


the trails from planes and geo-engineering the climate

02.08.2006 18:17

The most obvious reason that there is no purposeful large-scale and long-term geo-engineering of the climate, is the demonstrable and mostly bad effects of current and recent-past climate change!

The trails from planes have a net impact of accellerating climate change, Crutzens proposal is a desperate attempt to start a cooling trend to offset some of that warming.

One reason why it is potentially dangerous is that the projected of climate climate change is likely to be faster than many organisms (and hence ecosystems) can cope with, hence, a couple of very cool years, while possible good, could well be a fluctuation too far - especially if it were not a long-term and careful program.

common scientist


Yes very amusing.

03.08.2006 10:12

I thought the old DHMO joke was either long dead (for a joke, that means very little except an increase in its repitition!) or confined to student chemists.

For those without a chemistry background, DHMO is a 'funny' name for water.

That someone calling themselves 'scientist' should want to confuse and divert from the main issue is tired and dissapointing.

If anyone wants proper info on the issues of chemtrails and institutional 'solutions'[sic] to global warming etc ... forget this site.

Unfortunately most of the 'respectable' 'alternative' media wont let you see or debate the issues openly, so use your search engines instead.

Start with "ethelyne di-bromide", continue with "DU" (powderised), go on to "Operation Cloverleaf", pass through "us patent number 6315213" (the use of aqueous polymers to absorb electromagnetic radiation) and finish with "Morgellon's disease".

Useful resources: (pinch of salt not included, shoot the messenger option as standard)

 http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
 http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

Feel free to scoff loudly if you haven't either; the brain power; the time; or the disire to investigate for yourself.

I will look upon you with sad kindness.

Just remember, your silence is considered consent by "THEM" cue evil music ....

jackslucid
mail e-mail: jackslucid@hotmail.com


Hmmmm

03.08.2006 11:28

Well, nice try "a scientist", even without Jackslucid telling me, I would think I would of figured out eventually that it is water as water is two hydrogen to one oxegen molicule, standard information from high or secondary school.

It clearly states it is a spoof by saying its veracity is not implied:
URL:  http://www.dhmo.org/
Last Updated: August 3, 2006
Note: content veracity not implied
Copyright © by Tom Way


anyone who wants to can write or phone to the guy:
Way Tom
Admin Organization: DHMO Organization
63 E. Mill Station Dr.
Newark
Delaware
19711
USA
Phone: 1.13027381022
 dhmo@dhmo.org

Now a scientist your just being patronising, nice work.
Your still no better and no worse than me.

as to relating a disease such as morgallons, which have looked into a little,(very strange)
to the chemtrails, I personally won't go there.

It detracts from the hypothosis of Dr. Edward Tellers proposal. where he suggested to Lawrence Livermore labs that aeorplanes could be used to spray alumium to reflect the sunlight back into space.





Paul T


Not a spoof website:

03.08.2006 11:45

 http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php

why would you give up a career as a weather guy for this issue?
He did, he said on TalkSport last August.

I don't agree or disagree with the guy but its information, just what Tom Way's DHMO website is trying to improve: Imformation literacy.

kind regards,

Paul T


A thought from Tom Way of DHMO fame:

04.08.2006 10:11

Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:13:28 -0400
From: "Tom Way"
To: "Paul"
Subject: Re: DHMO

Paul,

I saw your comments that summarize well anything
I might have to add. Thanks for adding focus to
that whole thread... it is amazing how often people
jump to conclusions without thinking things through
more thoroughly.

Cheers,

Tom

what I sent to him:

> I read your website that someone put on our website at Indy Media:
>
>  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/08/346625.html?c=on
>
> (Serious comments only please)
>
> I wonder what your opinions are if you care to comment on our debate
> please do!


So I am sure he would comfirm that is what i sent to him and him to me if you sent him the whole message complete to him.

kind regards, ans as Seal said in his song lyrics: "We gotta keep this world together, gotta keep it movin straight, LOVE like we mean forever, so the people can relate."

 http://acan.bravehost.com/ another chemmie site! if you can be bothered to look at it.
Frankly I've had enough of this sort of thing, but I think you have the right toknow what sort of stuff is out there. at the end of the day, so to speak, the most important thing is Love, we are all here to learn, in this matrix dream.


I Love you all,
from the being with the name of:

Paul T


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