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Is Israel's relatively low average IQ behind it's troubles?

anon | 12.04.2009 09:59 | Analysis | Palestine | Cambridge | Oxford

"Are we expecting TOO MUCH from Israel?"

Table: IQ by nation
Table: IQ by nation


Table: IQ by nation
 http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9546/iqwealthofntions.png

A 60-page review of the scientific evidence, some based on state-of-the-art magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of brain size, has concluded that race differences in average IQ are largely genetic.

Read the full story news-medical.net here:
 http://www.news-medical.net/?id=9530

"Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks."


Africa has the lowest IQs of any race (60-70) and is in a state of constant war. In Europe, Ireland has the lowest IQs (93) and it too has suffered conflict. Israel has been making headlines for decades with it's troubles in the Middle East and conspiracies around the world and their average IQ (94) is also low. We know that thick people are usually the criminals and who can't seem to live in a civilised manner, so do we expect TOO MUCH from Israel?

anon

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Bullshit

12.04.2009 10:26

This is a load of racist shite. Like it or not, Israel has produced numerous Nobel laureates and countless people who have started up world-class companies/organisations, in exactly the same way that other countries have. Give Mr and Ms Equatorial Guinea the same continuing educational and social standards as some of the so-called higher-IQ countries and doubtless they would achieve the same. It's nothing to do with brain size, it's to do with opportunity.

I though the concept of IQ testing was largely discredited nowadays anyway; is this not so?

Ketlan
- Homepage: http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/


Nazi eugenics

12.04.2009 10:49

This is unpastichable. Following on from IMUK publishing a mysoginist article attacking feminists in pseudoscientific terms 'because the comments were interesting' you have now opened the flood gates for every crackpot nazi.
I could rationally rip this article to shreds, but fuck it, you've brought this shit on yourselves.


Danny


I always thought Israelis were 'Shameless'. Now I know they are.

12.04.2009 10:49

I always thought Israelis were 'Shameless'. Now I know they are.

hj


Ha ha ha ha!!!

12.04.2009 11:07

This is very funny... it the JOOWS again!!

"We can't expect too much form Israel"Eeven when its a bullshit bit of research, the JOOWS are to blame. never mind that they score higher than the surrounding countries

ha ha ha

First one of the day. JOOWS!!!. ha ha

Indy media loves the JOOWS. Lets see how many more posts about the JOOWS there are today. Why not the French?

Yesterday they controlled the worlds banking!! (post was hidden!!) What will they control today - Come on tell me!!!

No one gets more posts then the JOOWS!

Papers were late again today - was it the JOOWS????



Captain Kirk


oh dear

12.04.2009 11:08

bearing in mind IQ test were made specifically for white western males it's not that surprising that the UK, USA, etc have around 100 - of course they do, their average was taken as the average for all - it's therefore also not surprising that non western countries have a 'below average' score. Seriously, everyone knows IQ scores are bullshit.

"In Europe, Ireland has the lowest IQs (93) and it too has suffered conflict."

Yea, whereas all the 'above average' countries have never suffered any conflicts have they? I mean, Japan, Germany, Italy, China - none of them have ever done anything bad. Seriously, is there a single country in that list that HASN'T at some point tried to kill or take over another group of people?

"We know that thick people are usually the criminals and who can't seem to live in a civilised manner, so do we expect TOO MUCH from Israel?"

We know that thick people are racist fuckwits who use pseudo science to 'prove' their bullshit theories, so do we expect TOO MUCH from them?

Ae


Delete this crap

12.04.2009 11:11

Has Indymedia UK totally lost the plot? This is racist garbage that should be deleted asap.

Duncan
- Homepage: http://nationofduncan.wordpress.com


unacceptable material

12.04.2009 11:12

Can IM admins take this down please. Racist eugenicist posts such as this should not and can not be accepted.

Thanks

concerned

concerned


this is racist shit

12.04.2009 11:12

this is anti-semetic bullshit had has no place on indymedia please take it down (I do realise that it is sunday morning and you were probably out raving but when you wake up get this nazi shit off)

that said i dislike your tone danny, indymedia is an open publishing forum so its just that it aint been noticed yet, you wanna calm down unless you have ulterior motives yourself.....

@rchie


hmmm...

12.04.2009 11:13

Putting aside the question of the validity or otherwise of the original research (personally I don't know enough about it to judge), the actual content of the post is simply stupid.

The poster cannot even read his own table:

"In Europe, Ireland has the lowest IQs (93) and it too has suffered conflict."

Actually according to the table Greece has the lowest in Europe, whatever that means.

The author also does not seem to know the difference between nations, races and even continents:

"Africa has the lowest IQs of any race".

One could go on... but why bother.



typing monkey


Speechless

12.04.2009 11:17

This muck seems likely to be from the same source as the chimp 'article' (as in the "soiled" sense).

I could say something about the verisimilitude and cultural imperialism of IQ, but I'd hate for it to be deemed interesting enough to leave junk like this as a gift to the part-time ADL.

I can only assume that the admins are busy elsewhere.

Nim Chimpsky & Washo's proofreader.


Makes sense

12.04.2009 11:36

That famous Israel paranoia is just the fear and voodoo of a backward nation

ds


Why don't the people saying delete it declare their interest?

12.04.2009 11:46

Why don't the people saying delete it declare their interest?

da


Declaring my interest

12.04.2009 12:13

>that said i dislike your tone danny, indymedia is an open publishing forum so its just that it aint been noticed yet, you wanna calm down unless you have ulterior motives yourself.....

Yeah, my ulterior motive is to complain like fuck whenever IM publish an openly discriminatory article. Currently we have this one, which is obviously racist, and the sexist one saying feminists should be submissive fuckers like Bonobos.

Since this racist shite is still visible though, here is why it is shite.

Even proponents of IQ don't equate it with actual intelligence. Since Jews in the US have a far higher IQ than average then there can be no serious racial explanation of IQ variance. This repeated variance between a diasporas IQ and the 'mother country' exposes the central mistake of racist inquiry, that there are no hard and fast races. Race is as abstract and arbitary a concept as class.
Correlation isn't causation. Differences in education expenditure and access would be a more reasonable explantion of any such correlation.

Danny


Is Africa's relatively low average IQ behind it's troubles?

12.04.2009 12:40

Let see how long before this racist shite gets hidden.

"Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks."


Africa has the lowest IQs of any race (60-70) and is in a state of constant war. In Europe, Ireland has the lowest IQs (93) and it too has suffered conflict. Africa has been making headlines for decades with it's troubles in the region and conspiracies around the world and their average IQ is also low. We know that thick people are usually the criminals and who can't seem to live in a civilised manner, so do we expect TOO MUCH from Africa?

All Equal


Who is the prettiest, smartest, strongest, richest etc

12.04.2009 13:08

"Like it or not, Israel has produced numerous Nobel laureates" and a similar number of Nobel judges

KM


why delete it?

12.04.2009 13:36

I think it's a pretty idiotic article, but I don't think that's a reason to delete it - I think it's precicely articles like this that help develop an ability to filter and catagorise content - any worries about people being unduly influenced are just bigoted (you think other people are 'thick') and misguided, mostly because as the comments tear it (however poorly) to shreds on its OWN basis, rather than some ideological perogative....

anti-censorship


Because it is racist and so breechs guidelines

12.04.2009 13:43

It's insulting to the Irish who may consider their violent history is at least partly due to the behaviour of the British rather than a flaw in their own abilities. It's insulting to criminals and insulting to stupid people and to poor people. It's hard to find someone the post doesn't insult, although I'm sure the idea is popular in Hong Kong and with the super rich (incidentally, millionaires have lower than average IQs ). It's just visibly wrong in too many ways to critique.

Worse than that though, is insulting to the reader for IM to leave it visible as if it is something worth debating or arguing against. Rough rule of thumb, filter out any post that contains the words Race and IQ. That post is so fucking racist it is probably illegal to publish it without a disclaimer. Maybe no IMCista has seen it yet, but they did see the Bonobo article which is another obvious breech of the Discrimination guidelines.

Danny


revolting

12.04.2009 14:00

Just when you think Indymedia UK has hit rock bottom, it digs deeper.

Hey, Mods. What the fuck?

ain't that the truth


No Platform

12.04.2009 14:12

Fair comment Danny, succinctly put I apologise for doubting your motives.

I have to say that my hangover excuse is starting to ware thin this post should have been removed ages ago (perhaps everyone is off chasing easter eggs).

Do you think it would be usefull if indymedia UK had a "flag up this article" button as other imcs and many forums have?......

And as to those who wonder why this should be removed (such as “anti censorship” above) it is because it is racism pure and simple.

It is based on the false premiss that you can distinguish between types of people in a racially genetic sense. To even engage in this discussion is to give oxygen to ideas that can only lead to domination, oppression and segregation.

Indymedia is not a forum for the promotion of insane ideas such as racsim, ufos or that the world is flat . All of these things have ample space elsewhere on the WWW if you what to take an “anti censorship” position try the BNP website a veritable hotbed of tolerance and rational discussion.

The fight against racism and fascism cannot include “tolerance” of racism or fascism.

@rchie


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