Condoleezza Rice Visits Liverpool!

OK so you may not agree with Condolezza Rice's decision to support the Iraq war, but that was only one of the many things in politics she has done. One the whole she is a good person, with few faults. She is also a role model for black people and someone the black community in Britain should be proud of. Very few black people make it to the top even these days so to slag off one of the few successful black politicians in America is in bad taste I would say.

How day you pull the race card like that in such a pathetic way? What on earth has the fact that Rice is black got to do with anything? You suggest that just because she happens to be black we should ignore her huge contribution to making it possible for the US to invade Iraq? Come on, get a grip.

You call yourself a Black Briton, yet you have more in common with the Daily Mail than the majority of people in this country...

In a piece titled 'Symptom of a dangerous divide' the Hate Mail, much like the comments of 'Black Briton' above, said that whatever our feelings about Iraq, "it is a sad day for British diplomacy when the U.S Secretary of State - the third most powerful politician in Washington - is treated with such discourtesy on her visit to these shores."

Like hell it is! On the contrary, it would be a very black day indeed if such evil scum were welcomed with the pomp and ceromony typical of celebrity worshiping sycophants. Thank goodness that some people have the passion and balls to voice their distain in public when these war mongers show their vile faces.

The Hate Mail article, says it is to the credit of the mosque committee in Blackburn that it was perfectly prepared to greet Rice, despite what the paper describes as "profound disagreements over Iraq". It laughingly suggests that the visit could have been "an opportunity for dialogue and perhaps some robust exchanges in private". Like hell, can you really imagine that any Muslim with the remotest ambition of giving Rice the earful that she deserves would have been allowed anywhere near her?

The Mail says that the mosque cancelled its invitation, "under pressure from anti-war protesters who refuse to meet a woman they say has 'blood on her hands'". Personally I doubt that is the full story. The prospect of having Rice visit the Mosque must have deeply angered a great majority of the Muslim community in the area and if the committee really did extend an invite there would have been deep devisions.

One comment on the Daily Mail website said, "So I say full marks to Muslims who have stuck by their beliefs by not meeting up with Rice. Pity a few more don't do the same. After all it was Blair and Bush that didn't want to talk to the Tyrant of Iraq to try and find a peaceful solution to the Iraq war.",

Incrediably the Mail claims that protest over Rice's visit has, "allowed the conduct of British foreign policy to be diminished by the rank discourtesy of a self-regarding minority". Hold on! British foreign policy has been diminished by it's policy of siding with the imperialist military interventions of the US government, not because of 'rank discourtesy' by THE MAJORITY of the population who opposed the invasion and subsequent occupation. Self regarding? That coming from the Daily Mail, a right wing tabloid hate rage not fit to wipe your arse on.

Revising history for the benefit of it's readers, the Mail tells us that it's opposition to the war has not changed and that they, "believe it a tragic folly". However, they reveal their true nature by brown nosing up to, "the representative of our greatest ally, a nation that stood with us in two World Wars" and putting down the protesters. Unable to avoid letting their shallow mask slip further, they go on to claim that the 'militancy' of the protesters, "has to be seen in the context of an obsession with multiculturalism - encouraged in schools, promoted by politicians and regarded as de rigeur by the BBC - that teaches members of all ethnic minorities that their rights are equal if not superior to the rights of the host community."

So, Black Brition, you a Daily Mail reader by any chance, it seems that you would fit in well despite your colour.

If anyone attacks Ms Rice because she is black or uses that fact against her that isn't acceptable. However her loyal support of mass murder in order to gain oil/power must not be dismissed as "one issue".
To say we can't criticise someone's crimes against humanity and the planet because they also happen to be black is a terrifying degre of censorship which I am not prepared to accept.
Most tyrants and the lackeys of tyrants have many good points; should we say Hitler was a good guy because he was vegetarian or Stalin was a good role model if he loved his mum?
Please think your arguments through.

Yea lets all forget all the bombing,shooting,mass murder upon a hell of alot of innocent individuals because Connie Rice is black!

To Mark-Adolf Hitler was a modern vegetarian who ate,"squab(pigeon),fish eggs,ham,liver",like so many existing vegetarians who eat fish,then proclaim their vegetarianness.

Those people are not vegetarian if they eat meat or fish!!!

>To Mark-Adolf Hitler was a modern vegetarian who ate,"squab(pigeon),fish eggs,ham,liver",like so many existing >vegetarians who eat fish,then proclaim their vegetarianness.

To call Hitler a vegetarian is like calling a 40 a day chain-smoker a non smoker simply because his doctor has said he should quit. Hitler ate meat but was advised by his doctor to quit as a possible cure for long term digestion problems. Needless to say, Hitler did not quit meat but even if he had, WHO THE FUCK CARES!!!??

Black Briton [someone pretending to be black]: "She is also a role model for black people"


In fact, she is an *embarrassment* to 99.9% of black people in the U.S. (except to the 0.1% of black conservatives) -- and to most blacks in Britain -- and in Brixton -- too.

I would explicitly tell you what she is sometimes called in the Africa American community, but I don't know if UK Indymedia would let it get posted (but it starts out with "Condoleeza the [rhymes with leeeza]).

I am African American and, indeed, I came to the UK Indymedia website to look for and check out the wonderful photos of the protests against Condi.

So, as far as protesting Condi: TALLYHO!!

I think that a big round of applause should be given to those IM volunteers in Liverpool who have made such a great feature and did such brilliant prep work. They are super and it is brilliant to see so many people post their photos and reports. They are small but perfectly formed, if over busy. Lets hope this can give Liverpool IM the boost it needs to get regualar stories. People of Liverpool, look how good IM can be when used well. Use it. Its beautiful.

ps fav picture g and m holding banner in defiance. least fav... viedo with over long shot of jfg s face... i am trying to forget what it looks like.

Just found loads more photographs of the day at  http://www.hopestreet.info/