You appear to be trying to shut down small businesses because they sell fur hats. You had a go at my local Army surplus store as well recently.

With thuggish behaviour like this targeting quit ordinary people, can anyone really be that surprised that the Police send agents into your midst? I think they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they let the likes of you run around smashing peoples lives up willy-nilly.

I hope you think again about what you're doing. As well being very dodgy morally you're very much putting yourself and indymedia on the wrong side of the law with these inflammatory posts. It's like something out of Combat 18.

This is NOT about whether you should or should not campaign against those selling furs. This is just about the attitude expressed that there is anything wrong about those you have gotten to agree under while under threat to stop selling fur "going back on their word".

Sorry -- but it's not like that. You can reasonably complain about anybody who has pretended to come to your point of view, who has willingly ceased to deal in animal parts. But anybody whose agreement you have only under duress is entitled to revert the moment your force is removed. Yes, force may in the short run be more quickly effective than convincing; but you have to question durability of that effectivenss. THAT takes time too.

Hey, I'd be the same way too. Those with more force to apply might get my temporary agreement to things against my will. But that lasts only as long as they can still apply force and heaven help them if they are ever down in front of me where I can put a boot in. It's how we humans behave. When I force somebody to do something instead of convincing them, the nTHAT has become an issue which might over shadow the rights and the wrongs of the original matter.

who gives a fuck what you think, you think people should be governed by the law? you care about posh boutiques going under? you are trolling get off indy.

good luck to the campaign against her, i know i will be getting in touch!

The various trolls and animal abuse apologists here are completely missing the point as usual.

This message is aimed at other animal rights activists, not you. Animal rights, unlike human rights, doesn't rely on getting approval from the human population. We would think it is wrong to farm or trap animals for fur, and right to attack those who do, even if every single other human on the planet disagreed with us. Because we know the animals being abused would agree with us.

We can argue whether it is good tactically, but from our moral viewpoint it is totally justified.

And MDN, you are confusing rhetoric with overly literal interpretation, as usual.

I think the truth is:
animal abusers = sad little spiteful people who secretly like to pick on someone/something.
animal rights activists = people who always stood up to bullies and fought for what is right, even if it was unpopular.

Fur-farmed animals spend their entire short life in tiny wire cages going totally insane (they usually roam large territories) before being anally electrocuted. Trapped animals die an agonising death, often chewing their own limbs off in a desperate attempt to escape. This is the reality of the situation, and I'm sorry, anyone who is a part of this hideous abuse deserves everything they get, in my opinion. Utter scum.