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English Defence League, LGBT, Anarchists, Iran, Israel and Palestine analysis

Anon | 20.08.2010 16:44 | Flotilla to Gaza | Anti-racism | Palestine | Social Struggles | South Coast | World

The English Defence League are a Zionist backed & funded street army who have recruited hardcore racists groups in their plans to start a race war against Muslims. They use the excuse "Islamic extremism" as a ruse for their anti Muslim thuggery but their Israeli flags and "Stop Iran's support for Hamas" banners say it all. Orlando Montfort of the EDL LGBT Divs will be leading EDL Anarchist Divs.



When people think of the English Defence League [EDL] they think of racists from Combat 18, BNP, National Front, Anarchist Nationalists, Blood & Honoue etc and these have all been attracted to and invited into the EDL. Many EDL leadership members vote UKIP and encourage EDL members to vote UKIP ie Guramit Singh, Joel Titus, Trevor Kelway and Darren Lee [also known as Darren Marsh].

An emerging picture however show that the real agenda of the EDL is that they are are supporting and defending the Israeli occupation of Palestine and are protecting Israeli interests here in the UK. They have recruited hardline neo Nazis to do their dirty work and have tried to start a race war against British Muslims. They have recruited ex and serving soldiers form the British Army, some of whom are self confessed Zionsists, others are racist and some simply see Muslims as "the enemy" following years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

One of the claims made by the EDL is that "Mohammed [PBUH] was a paedophile and that he "married a 9 year old". Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say this. The EDL keep using this as a way of brainwashing thugs into their agenda against Muslims.

A protest outside the Israeli embassy organised by the EDL and Zionists jointly revealed that the EDL also have it in for Iran. They held banners with "Stop Iran's support for Hamas" written on them. The EDL and their supporters certainly do have an anti Iran agenda. The EDL and their friends have trolled pro Muslim sites on the internet with a "women's rights in Iran" campaign and have used anti Iran propaganda to attack the forthcoming Al Quds annual demonstration and march on the 4th September and anti Iran propoganda with regard to Palestine.

The English Defence League have a Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Division. One of the men actively involved in the EDL LGBT Division Orlando Montfort plans to start an EDL Anarchist Division. He has said that he will be concentrating his efforts around Tower Hamlets of where he says "There are more homophobic attacks in Whitechapel than anywhere else in the country" but has failed to back this up with statistcs. He says that he has strong support from gay and anarchist activists in Whitechapel and will lead the soon to be formed EDL Anarchist Division. Orlando Montfort does not look like a stereotypical EDL member. He dresses like a goth, has several piercings and a long jet black mohican hairstyle. He is a member of the EDL Jewish Division and says that he is from Portugal.

It is clear that the ENglish Defence League will use anything and anyone it can lay it's hands on in their Zionist war against Muslims.

Tonight on Channel 4 new the EDL's "leader" known as Tommy Robinson will be unmasked as Paul Harris following a false accusation by hope Not Hate that Stephen Yaxley Lennon was Tommy Robinson. The real leader of the EDL, the man who pays the EDL in the war on Muslims is Zionist Alan Lake.

Anon

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The truth.

20.08.2010 17:35

The edl is a tactical device being used against the English to stop them protesting against America and Israel and making their lives difficult while they persecute muslims around the world. Its just the politics of criminal states defending themselves against being held to account.

Edl members mostly have no idea who it is that is manipulating them.

We will have to keep an eye on the US and Israel, as today's news shows, they are feigning a defensive and this usually comes before an organised lapse back to violence.

I wouldn't be surprised if this violent lapse coincides with the edl going on the rampage somewhere in order to put people off protesting.

The edl are far from English.




Long Pole


It's know throughout history...

20.08.2010 18:10

That Nazis will happily side with Jews, Sikhs, Hindu's, Blacks, Gays & Lesbians....

I mean Combat 18 never targetted gays and Neo-Nazis across Europe will happily stand side by side with homosexuals.

Martin Smith


THIS ARTICLE IS WRONG

20.08.2010 18:26

THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT HAS BEEN MISSED OUT, IS THAT THE EDL ARE CAPITALISTS THAT ATTACK WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, THE EDL ARE SOLDIERS FOR THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM, MANY OF THEM SUPPORT LOYALISM AND THE MONARCHY, BUT ! THERE WAS A LINK BETWEEN ADOLF HITLER AND CAPITALISM, THE NAZIS WERE FUNDED BY INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSMEN, SO THE LINK BETWEEN FASCISM AND CAPITALISM IS OBVIOUS. I AM IN FAVOUR OF FREE SPEECH AND LIBERTY BUT WHEN AN ORGANISATION PUTS UP A COLOUR BAR AS TO WHO CAN JOIN THEM, THEN IT IS FASCIST, SAME WITH ORGANISATIONS LIKE THE EDL THAT DENY THE HOLOCAUST, THAT BELIEVE THAT IT WAS WRONG TO FIGHT HITLER DURING THE WAR, THEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PROTEST. IF THE EDL ARE ALLOWED TO PROTEST THEN THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN RACIST ATTACKS!

WEYMAN BENNETT


This article's a pack of lies - please remove

20.08.2010 18:58

This article presents zero evidence to back up the idea that England's Dumbest Louts are considering an "Anarchist Division" (lol), and Google reveals exactly 100% of ZERO other references to this subject in the entire world - the article complete bull. Moderators, please remove

Spike Lee


This article smacks of anti-Jewish sentiment

20.08.2010 19:05

honestly this whole article confuses 'Jewish' and 'Zionist' far too often. What does it matter if some nutter in the EDL is Jewish or not?- it doesnt prove or disprove anything about his politics- that sort of logic is the field of the EDL themselves. Moreover, the idea that everything is controlled by Zionists is too much like an all too familiar theory based in some very nasty Ideas the EDL arent too far from themselves. Get a grip. Zionism is a racist ideology that confuses Judaism with racism towards arab peoples. Buying into the idea that Judaism and Zionism are the same is bying some way into this myth.

A


Mohammed did marry a 7 year old girl

20.08.2010 19:19

"Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say this." It says in the Hadith that Muhammed married a 7 year old girl- and Muslims believe the majority of the Hadith is true.

I would like to point out, the Hadith is full of hate against Jews. Indymedia won't care about that. No wonder Indymedia loves Islam so much. You dislike Jews too don't you? and Islam hates Jews.

Anti-semitism is rife in the far-left.

Does it matter


Why do we have to read this?

20.08.2010 19:29

Can somebody please get this bollocks off Indymedia? It isn't even worth arguing with.

This Is England (Fascists Fuck Off)


The EDL ie "ME" keep asking that anti EDL posts be removed. Do not side with EDL

20.08.2010 19:49

Th EDL keep doing this...asking for anti EDL posts to be removed. Don't remove thios at th request of the EDL who are in fact planning an Anarchist Division led by Orlando Montfort.

anon


The EDL are indeed planning this Anarchist Division. Most Jews don't support EDL

20.08.2010 19:53

It does not say in the Qur'an that Mohammed [PBUH] married a 7 year old as the EDL keep claiming. The EDL ar4e always flying Israeli flags on their protests. they keep asking "moderate Muslims" to speak out against extremism. Well, we are going to ask normal Jews to speak out against these Nutzo Zionists that have started the EDL.

anon


These pictures of EDL demos speak for themsleves. Remove EDL comments?

20.08.2010 20:07









The fascist EDL are getting very angry with these articles which is why they keep asking for them to be removed. Maybe you should remove the EDL comments that keep asking for anti EDL posts to be removed? The EDL have rioted in Luton, Stoke, Bolton, Newcastle, Aylesbury, Dudley...the EDL have put pigs heads on Mosques. The EDL have pulled off women's hijabs. they have assaluted women [mysoginistic fascist scum have called the attacked women liars because they 'didn't go to the newspapers' which is adding insult to injury]. Th EDL are fascists working on behalf of Zionists.

The photos from DL demos speak for themselves. You can also go on the EDL forum and facebook and see how angry these racists get about these articles. Thy have asked people to mass complain and mass request that the articles be removed. They have also asked their anarchist supporters to contact Indy. Please don't side with the racists Indy. Leave the anti EDL posts up.

anon


Re "a google research revelas zero" LOL! Indy heard it first that's why.

20.08.2010 20:11

This is true. Just because your "google search" didn't find it doesn't mean it isn't happeneing because it IS. There is a very worrying trend of people sticking up for the EDL against Muslims who are under attack including from people who should know better. That first picture is from an EDL demo in London. The picture shows what the EDL's agenda is.

anon


Some of you claimed that the EDL weren't at Ahava when they were.

20.08.2010 20:33

Certain people claimed, following an article on Indymedia that the EDL were not demonstrating outside Ahava when in fact they have been and have now been photographed and filmed doing so. Orlando Montfort is one of the Ahava demonstrators. He is a regular at the Torture Garden where he is a performer. He writes the Gates of Vienna blog. He has a facebook account. If you don't believe that he is organising a EDL Anarchist Division why not email and ask him the truth? He is doing it.

Ahava are a toiletries company based in ISRAEL. There have bee FREE PALESTINE protests outside Ahava in Covent Garden for some time...and now the EDL turn up waving Israeli flags and EDL Croydon Division flags. Wake up people it's happening whether you like it or not. Roberta Moore is involved with the Ahava protests. She is a friend of Alan Lake...the man said to be bankrolling the EDL. Both her and Orlando Montfort are in the EDL Jewish Division. Orlando is also in the EDL LGBT Division.

anon


EDL forum show that the EDL Zionists have ADMITTED IT

20.08.2010 20:42

Roberta Moore was outside Ahava with the EDL.

The EDL admit Zionist links etc on their forum.

EDL are working with Zionists.

anon


naive and ignorant idealists

20.08.2010 21:41

There is clearly a lot of biased crap in this article which is purely opinions, very misleading and presumptious.

paragraph 1: So what?

>>> An emerging picture however show that the real agenda of the EDL is that they are are supporting and defending the Israeli occupation of Palestine and are protecting Israeli interests here in the UK.....
- A lot of people support Israel and are against muslims for various reasons. In no way does that make people nazis. You could use the same argument to say that Muslims are nazis if you want to follow that route.

>>> One of the claims made by the EDL is that "Mohammed [PBUH] was a paedophile and that he "married a 9 year old". Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say this.
- But it does say it in the Sahih al-Bukhari doesn't it? Forgot to mention that little fact did we?

>>> A protest outside the Israeli embassy organised by the EDL and Zionists jointly revealed that the EDL also have it in for Iran. They held banners with "Stop Iran's support for Hamas" written on them.
- If people are against Hamas (due to Hamas spending years throwing 1000s of rockets at Israel), then they are likely to be against Iran if Iran support Hamas. Connect the dots.

>>> It is clear that the ENglish Defence League will use anything and anyone it can lay it's hands on in their Zionist war against Muslims.
- OMG. The EDL is not a thinking entity that uses people. It is an organisation that people with common beliefs join because they are passionate about those beliefs and want to stand up for them. It is no different to the MDL or Anti-fascism or any other group. Its just a collection of people!

If people don't like Muslims, you cannot change that.
So the question is: What are you going to do about it?

campman


Tha last comment is defo EDL

20.08.2010 21:43

How do the EDL manage to get such thick people and so many of them? I won't claim that "Mohammed teached peace" because Mohammed taught Peace unless one has to defend oneself or ones relatives or Muslim Brothers and Sisters.

anon


EDL posts about Indy on EDL facebook!!!

20.08.2010 21:47


Look at them and their contradictory comments about the UAF and then the one about Indymedia!!

anon


"People don't like Muslims and you can't change that"

20.08.2010 21:49

"People don't like Muslims and you can't change that". Wrong. The EDL and their Zionist Kahanist friends don't like Muslims. As for what we are going to do about it...wait and see.

anon


Read the rest of the EDL's comments about Indymedia!! LOL LOL LOL

20.08.2010 21:54


Read the rest of the EDL comments about Indymedia LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!

LOVE YOU IM!

anon


Being a pedant about a paedo

20.08.2010 21:58

Old Mo married Aisha when she was 7 and then consummated the relationship when she was 9 or 10. They were married after the migration to Medina in 622. Go read some history. srs.

Oh and fuck the EDL/SDL/WDL. Fuck Islam, Christianity, Judaism and all the other embarrassing relics of our species infancy.
The idea of an anarchist EDL division is laughable. Dunno how they are going to try and get around the whole internationalist, anti-monarchist, anti-state, anti-armed forces thing. LOL!

Welsh Andy


Roberta Moores comment on the UAF on there...oh my days

20.08.2010 22:05

Have you seen what she's written?

She's put :"If the UAF are upper class I dread to think what they would be like if they were lower class. They smell and they dress like shit".

Roberta Moore of the "English" Defence League is BRAZILIAN. She's a Brazilian Zionist...'English' Defence League my BACKSIDE!!

anon


Charlie Flowers is on the friends list!!! Ha ha ha!! He says he's not EDL but...

20.08.2010 22:09


Here's his photo with Grommit Singh of the English Defence League....the racist who says he hates "f***ing Pakis". Guramit singh is a racist and here he is on an EDL protest right next to Charlie Flowers...who also happens to have erm been seen with Alan Lake.

anon


Ai'isha

20.08.2010 22:14

Actually it says in the Hadith that she was between 9 and 20 when the marriage was consummated. At the time in those days it was the NORM for polygamy and for people to marry as soon as the onset of puberty. Why pin the blame on Mohammed [PBUH} when it was common practise at that particular period of time for people to marry at a young age?

anon


We know who the scum fascist is who constantly attacks anti EDL posts

20.08.2010 23:02

We know who the fascist is who constantly attacks anti EDL posts and has attacked anti EDL protesters elsewhere. It's about time you got a grip. You are clearly on the side of the EDL and have accused Muslims who have been attacked of lying. You have sided with EDL claims about "violent Muslims" and you sir are scum. Utter absolute scum.

anon


Being a pedant about a paedo

20.08.2010 23:45

"Actually it says in the Hadith that she was between 9 and 20 when the marriage was consummated. At the time in those days it was the NORM for polygamy and for people to marry as soon as the onset of puberty. Why pin the blame on Mohammed [PBUH} when it was common practise at that particular period of time for people to marry at a young age?"

Islamic scholars put her age at between 9 and 10 when the marriage was consummated and it says in the Hadith that she was six when they married. Numerous times.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham's father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:
Narrated 'Ursa:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Now I don't know about your thoughts on this but I am pretty sure that raping 9 year olds is a pretty off thing to be doing whatever the time or culture. Homophobia is an historic norm, does that make it ok now or even way back when? No it fucking doesn't.
I'm assuming, from all the PBUH bollocks, that you are a Muslim. Have you even read the Hadith? You sound like the sort of Christian that thinks the Bible is full of love and hugs and ponies rather than bloodshed, rape and genocide.

Welsh Andy


ZF - EDL - BNP; idiots & bastards

21.08.2010 08:06

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/17/stephen-bates-diary-eric-pickles

"A vehement spat in which no love is lost rumbles on following the appearance of the Islamophobic English Defence League alongside members of the Zionist Foundation supporting the state of Israel at recent demonstrations. Tony Greenstein, an activist supporter of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, accuses Jonathan Hoffman, co-chair of the ZF, of having strange bedfellows in the EDL,
some of whom enjoy making Sieg Heil salutes and have links to the BNP. The two groups were apparently present at a demo supporting Israel following the Gaza flotilla imbroglio, and turned up again last Saturday outside the Ahava beauty store in Covent Garden, to counter a demo by those opposed to trade with Israel.
"Hoffman is outraged at the slur on his impeccable record of opposing the BNP, but he does admit the EDL do turn up to ZF protests. "There is no link between us," he says. "We live in a free country, we can't control who demonstrates on the streets. People on the left think nothing of demonstrating with people who support Hamas and other terrorist groups. Greenstein is just mischief-making."
But he has asked the police if they can provide a separate pen for EDL supporters in future."

ZF - EDL - BNP - NF: All these right groupes have cliques controlling them; they are vertical organisations. As right groups they support the interests of the powerful. A few of their members believe the propoganda of their leaders and might be won round tho.

From Stephen Bates in the Guardian


EDL activists say "KILL A JEW, BURN A SYNAGOGUE"

21.08.2010 12:34

EDL activists say "KILL A JEW, BURN A SYNAGOGUE"...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W804TI8B9Zo

EDL Jewish division my ass

The Fall


EDL work for the Zionists. It is they who are the TERRORISTS

21.08.2010 23:04

The EDL are a zionist led group. They are terrorists. Israel boarded a Turkish ship and attacked innocent aid workers. This is terrorism. The EDL terrorise communities. This is terrorism.

the "berk"


Im from Bradford

22.08.2010 11:49

"They are terrorists. The EDL terrorise communities. This is terrorism."
This would explain the rampant stupidity they exhibit.

I live in Bradford. I don't want them where I live. I've posted on their forums and they just don't give a shit about what they do in Bradford. They don't care about the people of Bradford, all they care about is smashing the place up. They aint defending anything, they are just attacking us.

Good to hear they've been banned and their nazi march has been cancelled.

Gary Maloney


don't get neoCONNed

25.08.2010 11:35

it's said Israel did bombing Bradford, and now Iran? Classic zionism in action. Don't get neoCONned again of the Zionist lobby in power Shame . They deserveit.

TG


Wahey! It took a while, but we've worked it out. The author of this stuff is...

29.10.2010 18:30

Drew Sutton, wahey!
Now why is he so angry I wonder?

Here's himself on Facebook-
 http://www.facebook.com/drubeus

He's also a regular at United Shades Of Britain.

Batman


Drew Sutton- encouraging people to report groups to the cops????

02.11.2010 18:36

(from United Shades Of Britain's Facebook group)

 http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=385424445082&topic=14111

Drew ✯ Sutton
 https://reporting.direct.gov.uk/
This website is intended for the public to report any illegal terrorist, violent extremist, or hate crime information, pictures or videos found online. The report only takes a few minutes to complete, and all reports received are anonymous and reviewed by trained police officers.
about 4 months ago · Report

How strange.

Charlie


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