Portland IMC responds to SF Indymedia Conflict
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Portlands response, on SF IMC
After examining the conflict in the SF Bay Indymedia community, with the information that we have Portland Indymedia activists have collectively decided that the actions of the current SF-IMC group are directly contrary to the spirit of Indymedia, to it's Principles of Unity, and to basic ethical behavior.
Therefore, Portland IMC activists have consensed to no longer recognize the current SF-IMC as a legitimate IMC until SF-IMC justifies it's actions of unilaterally taking over the SF server. Until that time, SF-IMC will be removed from the cities list on the Portland IMC site.
Portland IMC activists also agree that the subsequent New-IMC decision to recognize the new SF-IMC group was not valid with Gekked as the sponsor because the hard questions regarding his own actions have not been asked, nor answered. We feel it was a conflict of interest for Gekked to be the sponsor of his own groups petition to be recognized by New-Imc. Therefore, we recommend that SF-IMC's official recognition within New-IMC be RETRACTED, with a NEW application required for any future recognition.
Furthermore, Portland IMC activists encourage the Indybay group not to compromise and accept any deals but rather to demand that the SF Indymedia community remain a single IMC and that the people currently controlling SF-IMC justify their actions or step aside.
Indymedia activists across the broader Indymedia network are also encouraged to speak up and take action to address the wrong that appears to have been done.
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we at s/f Indy media have long been unable to speak out for fear of retaliation from
a few individuals who have come to power. we feel that the s/f indymedia has been diverted from its founding principals.
we have tried time and time again to address our grievances in a civilized manner but the ruling faction sees no need play by any rules but their own. we have participated in many,many meetings but to no avail, we even had out side mediation but could not resolve our issues. in fact it has made matters worse
List of actions by the sf.indymedia.org group that violates the
indymedia Principles of Unity
1. The sf.indymedia.org group has refused to put up a blurb and links
about the split as agreed to during mediation.
2. The sf.indymedia.org group has been repeatedly hiding and deleting
legitimate posts to their newswire by local activists whom they see as
being connected to indybay.org.
3. Immediately after the mediation was over, a member of
sf.indymedia.org withdrew half of the money from the imc checking
account, and then refused to negotiate the price for stickers and
t-shirts advertising the sf.indymedia.org web site address. According
to the agreement, the groups would split the money in the bank account
after sfbay was reimbursed for the mutually agreed upon price for the
stickers and t-shirts, and sf.indymedia was reimbursed for pieces of
equipment that sfbay wanted to purchase.
4. The sf.indymedia.org group has deleted the SF-IMC email list and the
Enemy Combatant Radio (ECR) email list without warning, before anyone
had the chance to back up three and a half years of work and contacts
contained in the lists' archives.
5. the money that paid for the mediation should be refunded to the
current members of indybay.org.
The end result of all of this is that a select few with positions of power,
and a personal vendetta within an IMC collective, and towards long time alternative media activists who did not submit to this control. Even on this web sight we cannot post our views with out subversive attacks from the indy nazi's
We want to stress that we believe this is an urgent, critical matter
that is in the interest of the entire Indymedia network.
we ask for help from the rest of the collective in restoring freedom of speech to the san francisco bay area
The San Francisco Bay Area Independent Media Center collective can be
contacted at sfbay at indymedia.org.
reposter
Portlands response, on SF IMC
After examining the conflict in the SF Bay Indymedia community, with the information that we have Portland Indymedia activists have collectively decided that the actions of the current SF-IMC group are directly contrary to the spirit of Indymedia, to it's Principles of Unity, and to basic ethical behavior.
Therefore, Portland IMC activists have consensed to no longer recognize the current SF-IMC as a legitimate IMC until SF-IMC justifies it's actions of unilaterally taking over the SF server. Until that time, SF-IMC will be removed from the cities list on the Portland IMC site.
Portland IMC activists also agree that the subsequent New-IMC decision to recognize the new SF-IMC group was not valid with Gekked as the sponsor because the hard questions regarding his own actions have not been asked, nor answered. We feel it was a conflict of interest for Gekked to be the sponsor of his own groups petition to be recognized by New-Imc. Therefore, we recommend that SF-IMC's official recognition within New-IMC be RETRACTED, with a NEW application required for any future recognition.
Furthermore, Portland IMC activists encourage the Indybay group not to compromise and accept any deals but rather to demand that the SF Indymedia community remain a single IMC and that the people currently controlling SF-IMC justify their actions or step aside.
Indymedia activists across the broader Indymedia network are also encouraged to speak up and take action to address the wrong that appears to have been done.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
we at s/f Indy media have long been unable to speak out for fear of retaliation from
a few individuals who have come to power. we feel that the s/f indymedia has been diverted from its founding principals.
we have tried time and time again to address our grievances in a civilized manner but the ruling faction sees no need play by any rules but their own. we have participated in many,many meetings but to no avail, we even had out side mediation but could not resolve our issues. in fact it has made matters worse
List of actions by the sf.indymedia.org group that violates the
indymedia Principles of Unity
1. The sf.indymedia.org group has refused to put up a blurb and links
about the split as agreed to during mediation.
2. The sf.indymedia.org group has been repeatedly hiding and deleting
legitimate posts to their newswire by local activists whom they see as
being connected to indybay.org.
3. Immediately after the mediation was over, a member of
sf.indymedia.org withdrew half of the money from the imc checking
account, and then refused to negotiate the price for stickers and
t-shirts advertising the sf.indymedia.org web site address. According
to the agreement, the groups would split the money in the bank account
after sfbay was reimbursed for the mutually agreed upon price for the
stickers and t-shirts, and sf.indymedia was reimbursed for pieces of
equipment that sfbay wanted to purchase.
4. The sf.indymedia.org group has deleted the SF-IMC email list and the
Enemy Combatant Radio (ECR) email list without warning, before anyone
had the chance to back up three and a half years of work and contacts
contained in the lists' archives.
5. the money that paid for the mediation should be refunded to the
current members of indybay.org.
The end result of all of this is that a select few with positions of power,
and a personal vendetta within an IMC collective, and towards long time alternative media activists who did not submit to this control. Even on this web sight we cannot post our views with out subversive attacks from the indy nazi's
We want to stress that we believe this is an urgent, critical matter
that is in the interest of the entire Indymedia network.
we ask for help from the rest of the collective in restoring freedom of speech to the san francisco bay area
The San Francisco Bay Area Independent Media Center collective can be
contacted at sfbay at indymedia.org.
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