Two Freemen on the land unlawfully detained at Nottingham Oxclose Lane

Whats a 'freeman' please?
cant find it on internet

These are people who no longer wish to be a part of the masonic, pyramid control system that has been imposed on people in Britain and around the world. They also want the Common Land in Britain and around the world that has been stolen handed back to it's rightful owners.

We know what their game is and their days are numbered.

What's the real story?
If the property owner/occupier dosn't want an electricity supply, they don't have to have one fitted, do they?
The supply undertaking can simply cut the supply cable at the street.

like this,ta. Spraying someone in eyes like that with professional pepper spray is aggravated assualt, possibly with criminal damage, call Gregsons solicitors 01159411999.
Make sure records are made!!!
They specialise in suing police when they go to far.

So is it someone who doesn't pay for stuff like property?

Because in the article it says their property. But if they don't own it then that doesn't make sense that they would try to object to the electricity people coming.

If you don't own it, then you are probably renting (which are covered by tenancy agreements). If you arnt renting, then i don't understand what their point is?

The freeman idea is something spreading round the conspiracy theorist scene. An idea that by declaring yourself a 'freeman' you can be exempt from the law.

You mean, if they choose, they can do what they like with complete impunity?!
Does being exempt from the law mean that the law doesn't protect you either
Sounds like a very double-edged propositions to me

Well, all i can say is 'good luck' because they're going to need it!

abe said: "So is it someone who doesn't pay for stuff like property?"

What like the British Royal Family who have inherited land that originally belonged to the community as a whole and was known as "Common Land" ... every heard of the "Robber Barons" and "Land Clearances" or other brutal methods that were used to drive people from their native, traditional lands?

Well, we shall be claiming it back... not just in this country but around the world. Western Law is a travesty of justice. Consider the native American Indians that were driven into reservations on the worst land available, or the Australian Aborigines that were driven off their ancestral land. This also occured in Russia, China, SE Asia, etc, etc.

The Royals will go... the Oligarchs will go and the smug little civil servants with their clip boards will go... time is on our side. Bye bye!

the original article refer's to the (so-called) Freemen's "property", and efforts to gain "unlawful" entry to it.

Both these concepts obviously require a legal system to mean anything.

so exactaly what type of 'freemen' are they, that are reliant upon a legal system?

Seems they're everywhere, these freemen, getting dragged away or pepper sprayed. They are connected it seems with the internet site www.tpuc.org and its guru John Harris. They seem to have a lot of the right instincts about the oppression in this country but a very poor grasp of political realities. They are often admirably brave in the way they confront the authorities. In their reasoning they seem to hark back to some golden age when the law protected all the people. They drone on about contracting, maritime law and common law rights with exhausting conviction.

Anon wrote above that freemen think that they are above the law?
This is not the case, infact, quite the opposite.
By declaring yourself as a freeman on the land you are declaring that you will be living a life in accordance with common law I.E a peacefull existence, free from causing harm or loss to another, or behaving fraudulantly.
You are also revoking your consent to be goverend by the statutes that are in place, that govern our actions daily.
Its the difference between living lawfully, and legally.
For example...who is at loss or harm if you have parked your car 2 inches over a line? no-one really, but it is still deemed apporpriate to issue a hefty fine and levy your funds.

Anon wrote above that freemen think that they are above the law?
This is not the case, infact, quite the opposite.
By declaring yourself as a freeman on the land you are declaring that you will be living a life in accordance with common law I.E a peacefull existence, free from causing harm or loss to another, or behaving fraudulantly.
You are also revoking your consent to be goverend by the statutes that are in place, that govern our actions daily.
Its the difference between living lawfully, and legally.
For example...who is at loss or harm if you have parked your car 2 inches over a line? no-one really, but it is still deemed apporpriate to issue a hefty fine and levy your funds.

This is related to the "sovereign citizen" defence that was originated by American White Supremacists and pulled off quite effectively recently by some drug dealers who were on trial for their lives - this link has some of the details

 http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0805.carey.html

While it did save them from the death penalty, it didn't exactly get them off either. The idea is that you claim you're a "freeman" or a "sovereign citizen" and that the law does not apply to you because.... er... you're somehow not legally subject to the courts' authority. Naive and boring - claiming that the court has no juristiction over you goes all the way back to Nuremberg. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

long live the thing called john.

'Whats a 'freeman' please? '

Sounds like a good idea to me. The legal system might do much to protect the property of the wealthy but it's next to useless for the average person. I don't accept the legitimacy of the authority of this nasty little state and clearly, there are others who feel the same.

Where do I sign up?

embee

the idea of literally unshakling from this oppressive, corrupt, dehumanising system sounds very interesting....and its a pity that without actual knowledge, folks seem to think it ok to make dismissive comments. anarchism and any anti-authoritarian, anti state perspective is often negated in a similar way...is baukunin a guru?....strange how 'radicals' often mimic their oppressors!
could this approach actually be of useful?? rev up them search engines!!

I find that closing my eyes, putting my fingers in my ears and chanting "icanthearyouicanthearyou" to be equally as effective in dealing with the existence of state and economic power over me.

As a freeman no I am not above the law just statute ( a rule made by a pen pushed )
I have a lot more responsibility that most as I am at full liability I dont need to hide behind a system that robs you blind just ins case I do wrong and need someone to hole my Hand.

As for not knowing politics what a joke the so called government is a private company this can be proved and party will never make a change as their comapany is working fine KEEP the POOR and work them harder to pay more tax that in this Land has no law to say we have to.

So Knock the freeman all you like

We may be freemen but we are not blind men
The ones that knock us the most are the one that cant put in the month even years of study to be able to stand on there own two feed and say I am a MAN in my own.

It is far easier to bury your head and call us fools when you have know idea what is going on around you
It is not all law and politics as you seem to be making out if you had taken a bit better look you would see our so called MP's are just puppets for the banking world

If you want to do some home work look at birth certificate trading
as every day every one of us is being traded on the stock marked making a pretty bundle

so next time you get a hand out from the government banks or credit card companys dont thank them to much its out of your OWN FUND .

Moboma
Norwich