EDL trolls may be boasting about their exploits on Saturday but the truth is they Nottingham was more than they could cope with.
First they showed themselves up for the rabid mob of thugs they are in front of the national media. Here's a hint lads: when you're in front of the cameras try to behave yourselves. We don't like people who kick dogs in Ingerland.
The majority of EDL were penned in and under tight police control all day. The cops forced them to go home early. Most were escorted to the trains and coaches before 5pm.
The few small groups who avoided the pen to roam around the town met with serious resistance from local youths who gave them the runaround. A lot of the EDL's 'hardened warriors' proved to be a lot less hard after a few hundred yards of running and received some rough justice. Drinking all day may make you feel like a real man but you wont feel so great wheezing at the top of the hill whilst the local kids give you a slap.
Most of the EDL didn't really look up to a fight as they staggered around the streets thrusting their crotches out and flailing wildly.
My final tip to the defenders of English virtue - if your trying to hijack a bit of local history for propaganda, do your best to avoid pissing all over it. No wonder you were happy to let the old bill lead you home. Your sheep pen must have stunk.
The majority of EDL were penned in and under tight police control all day. The cops forced them to go home early. Most were escorted to the trains and coaches before 5pm.
The few small groups who avoided the pen to roam around the town met with serious resistance from local youths who gave them the runaround. A lot of the EDL's 'hardened warriors' proved to be a lot less hard after a few hundred yards of running and received some rough justice. Drinking all day may make you feel like a real man but you wont feel so great wheezing at the top of the hill whilst the local kids give you a slap.
Most of the EDL didn't really look up to a fight as they staggered around the streets thrusting their crotches out and flailing wildly.
My final tip to the defenders of English virtue - if your trying to hijack a bit of local history for propaganda, do your best to avoid pissing all over it. No wonder you were happy to let the old bill lead you home. Your sheep pen must have stunk.
getting sick of all this edl stuff
07.12.2009 23:27
stine
Ran rings?
08.12.2009 00:23
Lefties on here have admitted they got the tar kicked out of them. On the EDL forums they report any attacks on them by "local youths" for future reference. None got reported on Saturday...wonder why.
Oh yeah, the few Muslims who turned out to oppose us ran. It was an EDL victory plain and simple and no ammount of telling pork pies to your silly leftie mates will change that.
E E EDL E E EDL E E EDL
Oh, and for the record I'm Japanese. If the EDL are Nazis like you claim then they must be the worlds worst Nazis since they accept other races, maybe they need to re-read Mein Kampf?
Zefiris
...
08.12.2009 01:21
The above commenter is pretty hilariously displaying the precise boneheaded logic of the EDL that makes them a laughing stock even among the extreme right. At least Mosley's black shirts were organised. The EDL spend their time 1. Getting too drunk to act like human beings 2. Urinating on national monuments 3. Trying to shake down lamp posts for no good reason. I'll give you the first rule of fascism for free lads: discipline.
What I find personally hilarious is even their public facing goals (preventing Islamic extremism) are totally contrary to their tactics, as if an afternoon getting walking around by the police half-pissed was going to solve the problem of religious extremism. How?
Observer
First black, then muslim, now japanese!
08.12.2009 07:31
btw - just because a cop comes on here and pretends to be an antifascist with a sore head doesn't mean it's true.
and the idea that you're going to admit to letting 15 year olds make you look shit is quite funny too.
Maori antifascist
Violence
08.12.2009 10:08
You seem to take great pleasure in winding up Asian people so that they go in and do your fighting for you.
None of you seem to recognise just how irresponsible your behaviour actually is. Innocent Asians, mostly young men drawn in to a conflict that is of your making.
You don't seem to care at all that the police, who are only doing their job get injured, that innocent passers by get set upon by the Asians that you have wound up.
Do you really think that the moderate Muslims appreciate what you do, because they don't, moderate muslim groups wish that you would go away, that your violence is making things worse. That it is you that is stirring up racial tension.
Your revolutionary, far left agenda is plain for all to see and that far left agenda is just as fascist as Ajem Choudary, so you are not really fooling anyone.
You don't really care about the moderate Muslims under the yoke of extreme Islam are oppressed and dare not stand up against the extremists for fear of violence against them and their families, that gays dare not reveal themselves, that unbelievers cannot even tell their wives / husbands. That women are second class citizens, all this in 21st century England.
You rampage through towns hoping that you can beat up people who you think are EDL, as if somehow you have a right to do this, you boast of breaking the law, you plan to break the law, you incite violence and then somehow you contrive to make it look as tho you are standing up for freedom. That you have some sort of moral high ground.
I even read the other day some one suggesting a pipe bomb would be a good thing, as if that sort extreme violence would solve anything, other than just being violence for violence sake.
Arthur
to ARTHUR
08.12.2009 11:40
replace "Your revolutionary, far left agenda is plain for all to see and that far left agenda is just as fascist as Ajem Choudary, so you are not really fooling anyone."
with "Your unrevolutionary, far right agenda is plain for all to see, and that agenda is just as fascist and nazi-like and the people those soldiers you applaud faught against in WW2"
and replace "You rampage through towns hoping that you can beat up people who you think are EDL"
with "You rampage through towns hoping that you can beat up people who you think are UAF, anti-fascists or anyone who basically doesn't like you and sees you for who you really are"
& i think you'll find the guy who mentioned the pipe bomb was regarded as either a 'troll' or people said what he put was stupid. you're always going to find people who say things a bit extreme, but if he was gonna do it, i doubt he'd parade the idea around on indymedia haha. i wouldn't be shaking in your little racist boots at some idiot saying that kind of thing.
done.
LOL
So it is now wrong to protest against Islamic terrorism
08.12.2009 12:16
Nottingham resident.
Irony: "Oh, and for the record I'm Japanese"
08.12.2009 12:42
Heh, that's ironic, considering the Japanese and the Nazis were allies during WW2!
anon
EDL
08.12.2009 12:42
You say far right because a few idiots give nazi salutes on our demos, the fact is that we come from all walks of life.
In fact I dislike intensely the far right and their Nazi views and I and EDL will have nothing to do with them, hence the hatred they display against us.
I find it ironic that the far right and the far left hate us, it means we must be in the middle.
The ideologies of both the left and the right prevent them from seeing the truth, you both exist in a fog of hatred.
If EDL were left alone, our demos would be peaceful, you try to read between the lines, hoping to find an enemy so that you can combat them. You are looking for someone to confront.
We try and work with the police, you actively go up against them, causing chaos.
You cannot deny that telling Asians that we are BNP is likely to incite racial tensions, which seems to be exactly what you want.
I wonder why?
Arthur
Islamic extremism is just a fig-leaf excuse for the EDL
08.12.2009 12:55
But you have to be naive not to see that this is just a fig-leaf excuse for the EDL to promote fascism and racism.
I know most of the EDL have the "gay look" and are heavily into male bonding, but do you really think they are genuinely wanting to protect women and gays from religious oppression? I'm sure they are the first people to say that women belong in the kitchen and homosexuality is perverted or whatever. They hardly present the image of enlightened metrosexual New Men.
I'm sure most Indymedia readers are atheists who despise religion, but they are also people who despise authoritarianism, bigotry and fascism too.
anon
Keep Crawling Arthur
08.12.2009 13:18
Oh Arthur, you EDL propagandists whine away again and again about how you aren't the BNP, don't hate muslims etc..but then you ruin it all by actually turning up on the streets! Anyone who saw your lovely mob in Nottingham on Saturday - heard your chants, seen how you behaved with contempt towards all around you - will have seen the truth. You are a bunch of semi-coherent, right-wing dickheads, desperately trying to stir up social unrest against muslims. The best thing you could do for your "campaign against islamic extremism", if it were genuine, would be to cancel all your street demos/provocations, tell all the football casuals to fuck off, and then do some steady, patient work in combination with muslim communities themselves to reduce tension between communities and tackle the appeal of radical islam "at source". But - you aren't going to do that, are you? Because that's not what you really want....
Fred
Not just Muslims or Asians
08.12.2009 13:20
Just watching
to ARTHUR
08.12.2009 13:28
grow up. nobody wants you here.
oh dear
Shariah law.
08.12.2009 13:51
You try hard to tell me how I think, gays have a right to be free as do women.
A speech by British Muslims for Secular democracy, (BMSD)
Please watch this and then tell me that our people are not oppressed.
Arthur
Stop The Pissbladders!
08.12.2009 14:32
EDL Drama Queen Trevor KKKelway can be the Marie Antoinette of the "cock guillotine".
Don't know if the EDL will be still around in 5000 years time, when it's time for him to eat cake.
Robe Sphere
Piss Off Back To Stormfront, neo-Nazi EDL Trolls!
08.12.2009 14:41
Fighting with police, trying to pull down lamp posts and the most hypocritical of all, pissing on the English heritage you are trying to protect, is hardly the behaviour of grown-up, mature, sensible rational protesting human beings.
Even the fuckin' BPP don't piss on castles. You yobbos are never gonna live that one down. According to the far right forum VNN, thirty EDL idiots pissed in a line in Manchester but at least it wasn't over a castle.
The EDL are a complete joke.
Demmy God
@ arthur
08.12.2009 14:44
if you are linking to these videos, arthur, then when don't you get involved in their campaigns. they would love to have you. in fact, why don't we meet up and then we can go on one together. tell me if your up for it, i'll send you a contact number?
.... or would you rather stand around pissing on monuments and shouting with a bunch of bigots and followers looking for a fight with the mighty UAF???????*
*btw, does it feel clever running after a load of old grannies and students as if they are a rival 'firm'. can you not realise how ridiculous that looks to everyone? they are ineffectual tossers, and you give the impression they are mighty warriors. pathetic.
david
FAO Arthur and the non racist EDL
08.12.2009 15:42
Concerned of gipton [ the real one]
Yes.
08.12.2009 15:47
Too true. Of course, working together with Islamic communities to solve the problem of extremism in the tiny percentage of those where it exists (which I should note, plenty of Islamic communities are already doing) is what the EDL should be doing to further their supposed aims, but getting drunk and smashing things up is what they are actually doing.
The Muslim community despise the likes of Al-Muhajiroun occasionally mentioned by the EDL in the more lucid moments of their leadership (Al-Muhajiroun, it should be pointed out, likely have a membership of maybe about 50 or so) precisely because of the disrepute they bring their community into, as well as simple fact that they do not represent Islam or any real school of Islamic theology. For an example of a specifically Islamic response to their hijinks concerning 9/11 and their support for bombings see Defending the Transgressed: Mudafi' al-Mazlum by Shaykh Muhammad Afifi al-Akiti, a fatwah (Islamic legal decision) that unlike those in Al-Muhajiroun is actually written by someone qualified in Islamic law, and condemns suicide bombing as murder without reserve.
Observer
Dear Arthur
08.12.2009 16:19
Nobody really wants the EDL. The BNP might want the EDL. The BNP want to plunge this noble land into a chaos of religious and racial warfare. Will the EDL be protecting moderate Muslims against the BNP. Will the EDL be protecting moderate muslims against Christian Fundamentalists. The BNP need the EDL as THE rival Firm to ruck with because the BNP footsoldiers are, lets face it, past their best.
Maybe Nick Griffin decided to reenact Operation Hummingbird to rid himself of a faked up foe. The respectable MEP cannot be seen to sully his hands. But the EDL was predicted before The One Eye'd Monster took his place at the trough. Just read Indymedia before the elections. Just read Indymedia about the BNP plans to march during football matches.
Of course that is the BNP not the EDL. Who are not all racists.
There are rumblings in the Far Right. The EDL are quite welcome to go and defend moderate muslims from casual fascist street violence. The EDL can go and confront the Christian Fundamentalist Extremists that are persecuting ordinary English Jews, ordinary English Hindus, ordinary English muslims.
But nobody sees them doing that. Why were the EDL absent from every major antiextremist demonstration before the election of THE BNP? No answer to that? Nobody needs to be told because we can all guess.
Luther Blisset
sorry fash, you fail yet again.
08.12.2009 17:52
You obvioussly forget your history - you know, the one where the 1930-40 NSDAP (nazis to you) fought alongside the japanese and italians.
Shows the level of education of your typical EDL supporter (even/especially the ones who pretend to be "foreign".
{A}
EDL
08.12.2009 18:40
As for the BNP, who am I to judge people, if some one says that they agree with our cause, then we give them a chance, if they step out of line we throw them out. We don't care about peoples past affiliations.
We are not connected to the BNP or any political group, EDL is EDL.
What you can't stand is that we are patriots and you don't have to a nazi or a racist to be for queen and country.
The idea that this country is white and anglo saxon is out of date, we have a multi-cultural society now and black, brown and white need to unite against political Islam and show them there is no place for them in this country.
The purpose of EDL is to spark debate and we have sparked debate and Muslims are coming out and standing up against the extremist.
Do you really believe that the threat by Choudary is all we march against, how about the Saudi government pouring millions of pounds into mosque building and then staffing them with extremists, how about the setting up of faith schools that teach this extreme version of Islam, subverting our young men into becoming suicide bombers.
You consider your selves working class but you are not, we are the working class and we reflect the opinions and concerns of the working class.
Your ideology is out of date, dead in the water, there will not be a workers revolution in this country because your solution is fascist but your mind is closed to this.
As for using your forum as a playground, you infiltrate our forums all the time, not one word of abuse have I given you all, I have ignored the name calling and have simply put a point of view. Why, because I believe in debate.
We will force the government to act, have no doubt about that. We are united, you can't stop us, you can only react and that's only because we give you the chance to react by telling you when and where our next demo is, this we will change in the near future. One peaceful demo is all we'll need for people to see who the violent ones are.
Arthur
Arthur is a twat
08.12.2009 18:52
You don't need to be in EDL to oppose islamic extremism, there are many groups who are anti-islam that won't touch EDL with a barge poll. And for all the talk of "protecting women", I love to see what part of the feminist idea your individual EDL member takes on board. At the end of the day, you are popularist, reactionary pissheads up for a fight in OUR town centres - like most of the people that turned up with you they wanted to have a kick off. Tell me how does coaching in loads of coked-up, pissed out, thickos from all over england stop the growth of Islamic Extremism?!!!
Lets face it, you want a race riot - thats what 90% of EDL are gunning for, cause the best media you can get at this stage has been piss poor.
And now I hear your coming to London before the election? Well bring it on - we will be 10,000 against you.
Anarchist Antifa
arthur is running rings around Indy .. but whose running rings around you ?
08.12.2009 19:28
BUT whose pulling your strings mate is the question? what role is EDL playing?? .. sure, you are just opposing sharia and islamists .. but do you think REAL @s and communists support sharia and Islamism?? the mullahs killed tens of thousends of leftists in Iran and continue to do so over the world. You have got obsessed with the middle class idiots who represent much of the left and @s in the UK today as opposed to what those ideas mean. You know but ignore that 'reds' like the AWL and Phil Dickens from Liverpool Antifa and other @s support 'direct' opposition to Choudary and all .. so whats your game??
So back to the question what role is it you play as a group? well 1) you have ended up as cheer leaders for an idiot war and political strategy in Afghanistan mate and 2) you COULD end up deeply dividing ordianary people in this country
and increasingly we see an 'anti-red' element within EDL .. yet faced with an deepening economic crisis ( to pay for the massive debt after bailing the banks) we face massive cuts in jobs and services next year.
And who will be opposing these cuts .. you? the BNP? no, yet again it will be the ordianry grass roots 'reds' ( not the chattering class london reds you quite rightly despise) fighting these attacks on behalf of ordianry people like you .. and where will you stand then???
yet again we see good working class people being used and taken for mugs .. you need to take a long hard look at what you are doing
and come on, what are you doing using WW1 images as if that was a 'good war' !!!!.. that was the stupidest crassest most disgusting war ever and no one in their right minds defends it or talks about being loyal to those who sent hundrfeds of millions to their deaths in that bloodbath
durruti02
Piss off back to Stormfront, Divide and Conquer Neo-Nazi troll!
08.12.2009 19:55
"Durruti02", "Arthur", "Max", Nazi Boy Mark Collett or whoever you are, piss off back to Stormfront and leave Indymedia for people who oppose not support racism.
As has been said before, you don't get leftwing trolls on Stormfront, so why troll on here?
Hopefully you will get the message and leave us alone, thanks.
The EDL are a gang of football hooligans who offer nothing at all for society, so rather than pollute this forum with their bullshit, the neo-nazi troll should get a life. Go out on the pull and try to get a girlfriend.
I know its difficult for someone with hardline racist views to attarct females (which is why the EDl is an all-male jamoboree of race and religious hatred), but maybe you could start pretending your cock is bigger than it is, and that you aren't 100% charmless as I suspect you are.
You are not wanted, so piss off back to Stormfront!
Troll Deflator
@ Durrutti
08.12.2009 20:03
EDL Twitter --- @edlupdates
Check out the forums, the main posters are all stormfront neo-nazis, the forum moderator is a Wigan Mike, there are tons of articles being posted by the BNP. Any "hope" that this was genuine against fighting Islamic extermism -- something which in its PRESENT form is being fuelled by the Af-pak wars and the decimation of Gaza -- has been lossed.
Rivers of blood? More like rivers of piss (as the now famous photo aludes)
Anarchist Antifa
SILLY...
08.12.2009 20:10
SOD
Nonsense Arthur
08.12.2009 20:31
"What you can't stand is that we are patriots and you don't have to a nazi or a racist to be for queen and country. "
No, but you have to be a kind of ridiculous person to stand for these things uncritically after World War I. That old lie: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori?
"We will force the government to act, have no doubt about that. We are united, you can't stop us, you can only react and that's only because we give you the chance to react by telling you when and where our next demo is, this we will change in the near future. One peaceful demo is all we'll need for people to see who the violent ones are."
Considering who your membership are, and the deep links to despicable politics some of you have, I doubt you will ever see a "peaceful demo". The body of the EDL on Saturday were kept about a mile away from the UAF and associated counter-protesters who are usually blamed for the violence. And EDL managed to distinguish themselves by fighting the cops (the representatives of queen and country!), pissing on national monuments, getting drunk and being obnoxious to everyone. So even without the supposed provocations of the UAF etc, you cannot behave yourselves.
A more substantial response. The government have already acted on Islamic Extremism, and one might say, over reacted. Certain groups, for example, Al-Muhajiroun (banned on 12th August 2005), are banned. The ultra-strict Wahhabi schools are also banned, as well as considered bad news in the Muslim community. Mainstream Egyptian Sunni scholars have been refuting Wahhabi ones who they consider an oil-run corruption of their faith for many years, the most recent example being The Response by Al-Azhar University which shreds their arguments. Of course, part of the reason that your discourse is deeply Islamophobic is that you don't realise that the Islamic community is very much capable of handling these issues themselves, because you basically think they are 'primitive'. Plus, the overwhelming culture is one of suspicion regarding Muslims in general which is deeply counter-productive and creates rather than removes extremists.
Overall, you don't understand the dynamics of the Islamic community (the ummah) locally or globally, the reasons for extremism (which is, again, very minimal in this country), or the correct tactics for approaching it - ie not standing around on the street shouting EN-GER-LAND, having some beers and waving a flag.
Observer
So ethnics can't be patriotic?
08.12.2009 23:01
Sorry but I really don't get peoples points with this. Sure, the Nazis were allied with the Japanese but the Neo-Nazis hate all non-whites. I highly doubt Neo-Nazis would accept someone even with a trace of non-white blood no matter how pally Adolf was with them.
The fact that the EDL have accepted ethnic members like this makes them obviously not Neo-Nazis. Ask a Neo-Nazi if he likes the Japanese and they'll say no so really, don't get your point about the Nazi/Japanese alliance in WW2.
I came here to find out more about the EDL and the UAF and the attitudes of the left-side here are disgusting actually. As a British Sikh who is proud of this country and loves living in England I find it quite disturbing of the attitude some of you display.
It seems any foreign or ethnic EDL member is classed as a liar or a troll. Why is this? Do you assume that just because somebody wasn't born here or because somebody isn't white then they can't love this country or feel patriotic towards England because I sure do.
I'm not EDL but judging by their attitudes compared to yours they seem the better option to support to be honest with you. They at least seem to know that ethnics living in Britain can be patriotic and love the country as much as they do. You left-side types on the other hand seem to automatically assume that no ethnic can feel patriotic and love this country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that also the Neo-Nazi belief too? Seems the Nazis and the left have more in common than you think. Difference is whilst they hate other races you don't but you do make assumptions and generalizations about them which is just as bad.
British Sikh
A Japanese, a black person, a british sikh...come off it
08.12.2009 23:53
Anarchist Antifascist
@British Sikh
08.12.2009 23:57
London Anarchist
I am an ethnic minority though
09.12.2009 00:12
I'm guessing that you left-wing lot are the subconcious racists. The sort who if female shift your handbag to your other arm when passing a black person?
Making assumption about people because of their skin and as stated I am not EDL. I'm merely interested in the group but will not be attending any demonstrations because they are much too rowdy for my liking and seem to be using their demonstrations mainly as an excuse to get drunk.
I am also going to hazard a guess that you who oppose the EDL are the middle-class whites who see it upon themselves to get offended on behalf of ethnic groups?
The type of middle-class white who want to stop using the name Christmas in case it offends Muslims or complaining about nursery rhymes such as "Baa baa black sheep" under the mistaken belief that it might offend black people?
That my friends is making assumptions which I think is much more offensive than outwardly hating a racial group. I may be wrong but you left-wing people seem the sort to be like this. Who assume that ethnic minorities are easily offended and need to be appeased when that is not the case in the slightest.
In fact that causes ill-content towards ethnic groups and I consider it to be racist.
British Sikh
Dear British Sikh
09.12.2009 00:37
Nobody can see you. Everybody respects peoples ethnicity - so it is not an issue. You make ethnicity into an issue to score points. Why is that. Do you have no argument against Christian Extremism. Do you have no argument against Islamic Extremism. Do you have no argument against Sikh Extremism. Nobody can see you. The proof of your integrity is in your words and what you advocate.
You advocate violence. Is that the Sikh way now. Is EDL in favour of Khalistan as a matter of policy. Will Arthur be throwing out those who act against Bhindranwale. You advocate violence in the same way that Bin Laden advocates violence. You do not see the irony of advocating violence in the UK to achieve Khalistan when Bin Laden advocates violence in the UK to achieve a Calpihate.
The BNP would love you. Not only docile but prepared to stir up ethnic war on demand. That is not patriotic. That is not even close to patriotic. The NeoCons were all for it in Iraq before the illegal war started. Stir up ethnic conflict, swoop in and save the day. Still on for Operation Hummingbird are we?
Luther Blisset
Baah Baah Blagsheep
09.12.2009 00:41
Old Mother Goose
EDL infiltrated by Sikh Extremists
09.12.2009 00:52
So basically, the EDL chooses its terrorist allies the same as the BNP. How are people going to be convinced otherwise?
Concerned of Mumbai
Nobody cares about EDL race mixers
09.12.2009 05:43
The truth is a fascist is a fascist regardless of creed or colour. Filling the EDL ranks with Fascist Khalistan Sikh Extremists is no better than filling the ranks with BNP members. A fascist is a fascist regardless of colour or creed. The EDL need to prove they are not fascists. Having members of proscribed fascist organisations in their midst does not convince anybody. A fascist is a fascist regardless of creed or colour.
Now the EDL are screaming about mummies boys. The same men who piss on national monuments because they cannot hold their ale. The same whining pissheads who whine about a little kettle for an hour. Maybe if they can suggest that the whole left are shirtlifters then nobody will notice just what keeps happening to the EDL.
When the EDL were promised a ruck they got all excited. Turns out they were lied to. They were lied to on eBay. They were lied to about Combat 18. They were lied to about all the important things. They were lied to because those in the know do not need rank and file EDL to know the full picture. At every turn the UKFPU keep a close eye on the EDL. When the time comes, it will not be UAF that the EDL fears.
When the police kettle the EDL in pubs, especially Weatherspoons, they always have a request ready for CCTV footage. Even from the toilets.
Luther Blisset
Return To Stormfront, neo-Nazi EDL/BNP Trolls!!! Get a F*ckin Life!!!
09.12.2009 06:01
However much an Uncle Tom a BNP/EDL loving freak a Sihk extremist is, no self-respecting Sihk would call himself "an ethnic". The word has never been reclaimed by anybody, and is only used by scumbag white supremacist types to put down people of colour.
Both the fake Japanese man and the (supposed) Sikh Uncle Tom are both figments of Max (Mark Collett)'s crappy imagination. Starting off on the now defunkt Leeds Indymedia site in 2004, going under his many aliases, Max (small-penised Collett) has tried to divide and conquer Indymedia, setting anarhcists against socialists, knowing through in-fighting, a distracted and preoccupied anti-fascist opposition will give his beloved BNP an easy ride.
The EDL are just providing another point of interest to anti-fascists, helping to mobilise us against the enemy, thus Collett and co. are coming out of the closet, as well as the usual semi-professional subterfuge by pompous pompey nutter Trevor KKKelway's pro-EDL trolling.
As for Nazi Boy Collett himself, he's bisexual, and loves to sleep with men. Also, he is not loved by many of his fellow BNP members after alledgedly sexually abusing schoolgirls in a Blackpool hotel. Surely you've enough to worry about with being Nick Gri££in's stooge than trying to piss off anarchists and socialists on Indymedia.
As for the admin team for Nottingham Indymedia, it's time to wake up and delete both the pro-nazi EDL posts AND the other trolling including the fake Japanese and Sihk troll postings.
As for Collett, Kelway and chums, sod off back to Stormponce and leave Indymedia well alone.
Troll Destroya
Bogwatchaz
09.12.2009 06:22
You're being watched, EDL.
Guess why you always meet in Wetherspoons when playing at being the new National Front?
Lord Snitchfield
about patriots
09.12.2009 10:05
fascism is define as being when a group or person, forces their beliefs, values or laws, onto others using "violence and the threat of violence".
EDL did that when they chased asian youth through town on saturday...quickly followed by the lads mates who jumped the racists afterwards. this was just one single incident amongst many on saturday and other EDL demo's too.
EDL, when using the correct definition, are racist and are fascist.
alfonse capone, back fromthe dead,seriously p'd off with EDL trolls
Definition of fascism
09.12.2009 10:30
> onto others using "violence and the threat of violence".
I'm not sure this is the generally accepted definition. e.g. communists or capitalists could do this, but they aren't fascists.
Wikipedia has a long discussion on various definitions:
And this is a dictionary definition:
fas·cism (fshzm)
n.
1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
anon
Advice
09.12.2009 13:55
Observer
No Pasaran - Fascists off our streets
09.12.2009 14:00
redskin
EDL Tossers
09.12.2009 17:43
The strategy is identical to the one used by Combat 18 hooligans in Oldham when Nick Griffin was running for election there, and, whaddya know, EDL organiser Trevor Kelway has just e-mailed the EDL list telling EDL wankers to protest in Harrow, but asking them not to wear EDL insignia. Here's the full text of Trevor Kelway's e-mail...
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Dear EDL members
On Sunday, 13 December the SIOE (Stop Islamisation of Europe) UK has organised: ‘A static demonstration to protest against further mosques building in non-Muslim countries until violent jihad being preached in mosques across the world is stopped for good. No more mosques until we see churches, synagogues and temples in Mecca.’
This protest will take place outside Harrow Mosque, North London, which has recently completed a 120 foot high minaret. The exact time and location of the protest will not be posted until Thursday but it is likely to be in the afternoon and adjacent to the Harrow Mosque. This is a legal protest and SIOE has agreed a ‘memo of understanding’ with the local police.
The organiser of the SIOE UK, Stephen Gash, attended the Nottingham EDL demonstration. He invites EDL members to join him on Sunday, but part of the ‘memo of understanding’ with the police is that no other ‘groups’ or ‘organisations’ are invited. Obviously, EDL members as individuals are allowed and very welcome. However, as a precaution from being singled out and prevented from even getting close to the meeting point should you wish to attend, it would be best to not wear EDL shirts or insignia.
While SIOE and the EDL are separate organisations with different priorities and emphasis, as a matter of keeping our membership abreast of the full range of expressions in the counter-jihad movement I feel you would appreciate this notice. To be aware of, and given the chance to participate in, other counter-jihad expressions will help in our understanding of the issues involved and our response to them.
This will be the second attempt this year to hold a protest near the Harrow Mosque, which was prevented by the violence of the UAF and Muslim groups. For a report on what happened on 11 September see:
For details of the Sunday demo, which will be posted on Thursday, see
All the best
Trevor Kelway
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EDL are Shite
Neo-Nazi Troll Lobotomy Service
09.12.2009 19:43
And they are just as unfunny as ever.
They spend all day and night on their computer keyboards because non of them can get girlfriends, the ugly loutish Hitler worshippers.
Hope the London anti-nazi protest has a huge turn out.
Word has it they are planning Newcastle, Portsmough, Liverpool, Stoke and Edinburgh in 2010. We will be there too stopping the scumbags from marching.
No Pararan to Nazi Scum. Trevor KKKelway and chums when trolling keep on telling us they are not nazis, but so many of them choose to make hitler salutes it's kind of a dead giveaway!
Dangermoose
EDL,WHO ARE THEY AGAIN?
09.12.2009 23:21
the "right-wing" really are lost, eh?
do they even know their left from right,eh?
ha ha laughing at the EDL is so good for you....much better than getting wound up by their trolls!
lets forget them brothers and sisters,and remember those in trafalgar sq, athens and copenhagen, belgrade and pittsburgh, those activist in america doing hard time for the planet and the ALF, working for another world. remember the demo's and the actions that we stand for and forget about the EDL and the BNP. what do they offer those communities that we serve as revolutionaries? nothing. like wise, we cannot presume to think we could persuade them to not be xenophobic (hurts them more than calling them fascist, by the way)...who cares? lets forget them and remember we are needed by our comrades fighting real causes right now, not bothering with over-confident football yobs who have gotten rather politicised by griffinites and C18 spunk-racheters.
lets remember ian tomlinson, killed by the state. lets remember alex grigoropoulos, killed by the state, lets remember blair peach, killed by the state, lets remember all the others, carlos guliani and the rest.
lets remember the planet, the earth, our beautiful home and the place where we come together in our own spaces and design the different world we want. more often than not we act out that world for REAL. lets remember all those positive contributions to the real personal and communal revolutions that have taken place.
What do the BNP/EDL produce in those communities? nothing. so forget them. one million votes for them is as pointless as the 20million plus people who dont even REGISTER to vote!
forget them.
lets forget the EDL for now,and remember our other work and lives.
solidarity to all those involved in the true liberation.
fran
edl and the army
10.12.2009 11:25
worrying
Listen
10.12.2009 12:27
The EDL are the voice of 'loyalism' to this country, uncritical loyalism, even though this country has crewed them. Loyalist are NOT fascists but like the soldiers who supported the Freikorps or Mussolini they could well move that way UNLESS we provode an alternative.
So the EDL are not fascists in the way the UAF want them to be ... BUT could become overtly fascist if we **** up end up as a quasi fascist group splitting the w/c
BUT we have a simple choice .. do we want these people with us or aganist us .. there are way too many ignorent arrogent mainly middle class wankers on here and in the UAF who hold working class people in contempt and who seem to think they can make a revolution without the w/c .. well the EDL is then your worst nightmare cos frankly if it were not for the police the EDL would have mullahed UAF/Antifa and all the rest by now
the EDL are to a large extent the consequence of the middle class atke over of progressive politics .. to destroy that we have to make our politics w/c again
durruti02
Article
Sure above was EDL?
10.12.2009 13:19
Local boy
Photo
10.12.2009 13:29
Photo
Fact
10.12.2009 15:29
End of story
Alastair Darling
Piss Off Back To Stormfront, neo-Nazi EDL Trolls
10.12.2009 17:19
No free speech for racists who abuse free speech, and like the BNP and the rest of their friends on Stormfront, would send dissenters to concentration camps if they got into power, despite the EDL's claims that "they are not racist".
Piss off to Stormfront, and stop behaving like louts and pissing on castles just because you are loners who cannot score with the opposite sex.
Ha!!! ha!!! ha!!!
Leona
Lincoln Loyal - Lincolnshire's EDL Head Honcho
10.12.2009 17:47
Exposing Neo-Nazis in the EDL
Still Lovin' Hitler
10.12.2009 17:56
"We're loving Hitler,
We Do
We're loving Hitler
We Do
We're Loving Hitler
We Do
Adolf Hitler
We Love You!!!!!!"
Man From The Pru
EDL Treehuggers
10.12.2009 19:03
Don't know about carbon footprints, but the EDL thugs love to leave their bootmarks on shoppers, passers-by and peaceful antifascist demonstrators.
Daisy Chane
EDL Train Fares Don't Come On The Dole
10.12.2009 19:52
Train fares are so damned expensive I canot believe most of the football hooligans are unemployed, as the Dole Offices do not fund EDL away days. Neither could lads on McDonalds wages afford extrotionate train tickets, which happens to mean most EDL hooligan firms must be earning more than 20Ka year.
Who pays the ferryman? lol
denni