April update on opposition to the proposed CCTV scheme in Forest Fields.
A "presentation" about the CCTV cameras will be held from 6.30pm until 8pm on April 23 at Djanogly City Academy on Gregory Boulevard. Please come down to express opposition and stimulate further debate!
A "presentation" about the CCTV cameras will be held from 6.30pm until 8pm on April 23 at Djanogly City Academy on Gregory Boulevard. Please come down to express opposition and stimulate further debate!
Following a completely one-sided pro-CCTV article in the Nottingham Evening Post on Monday 13th April (see 
http://tinyurl.com/cxjaft for some depressing reading) we are calling for Forest Fields residents who do not welcome the introduction of CCTV here to make a concerted effort to help stop it over the next week.
Firstly, please come down and express opposition to the scheme at the public meeting (billed as a "presentation" - will they allow much time for debate?), which will be held from 6.30pm until 8pm on Thursday April 23 at Djanogly City Academy on Gregory Boulevard.
It is absolutely vital that as many of those who oppose the scheme as possible come to this meeting, to show our numbers, that we are not a tiny minority, and that objections to CCTV are based on a mountain of facts as well as personal feelings.
Even if you don't have much to say, at the last public meeting, a simple show of hands was asked for to gauge numbers of people for/against.
What with it being a meeting called by the police to discuss crime (and in the context of having talked about crime for the last hour or more with people who are really angry about it), it was no surprise that most people there were "in favour of CCTV" - and this was then used as a basis for extending their views to the whole community.
Please don't let a handful of self-selecting reactionaries - mislead by a lack of information and deliberate talking-up of the supposed "benefits" of CCTV from the police - condemn Forest Fields to being spied on, simply because those who oppose the scheme get mistaken for an insignificant paranoid minority.
It is absolutely essential that we make our presence known at this meeting, bring up inconvenient facts, ask difficult questions, and stimulate further informed debate about CCTV. (We could have a field day just from the Evening Post article alone - just look at the misleading, zero-basis-on-fact comments from PC Mark Tindall!)
So, see you there!!
Secondly, this coming weekend (18-19th April) and in the run up to the meeting, we will be doing a leaflet drop around Forest Fields to raise awareness of the facts about CCTV which the council, police and "Area 4 Neighbourhood Management Team" will no doubt fail to mention in their door-to-door leaflet and survey. If you could spare an hour or two to deliver some leaflets, please get in touch with us at the email address below.
Thirdly, the "Area 4 Neighbourhood Management Team" are going to be posting a consultation leaflet through our doors prior to the meeting. Please use yours to object strongly to the scheme. We will be posting our own leaflet up here in the next 24 hours, which contains plenty of information about why you might want to object to CCTV.
Fourthly, after the consultation leaflet comes round, please try to discuss it with your neighbours where possible, get people informed, and raise awareness about why CCTV is bad news for Forest Fields. If you need help getting started, http://www.no-cctv.org.uk/ contains plenty of useful information (although you may have to trawl the site a little bit to uncover it).
Finally, if you would like to be involved in any way with organising against CCTV in Forest Fields, please contact us at the email address below.
http://tinyurl.com/cxjaft for some depressing reading) we are calling for Forest Fields residents who do not welcome the introduction of CCTV here to make a concerted effort to help stop it over the next week. Firstly, please come down and express opposition to the scheme at the public meeting (billed as a "presentation" - will they allow much time for debate?), which will be held from 6.30pm until 8pm on Thursday April 23 at Djanogly City Academy on Gregory Boulevard.
It is absolutely vital that as many of those who oppose the scheme as possible come to this meeting, to show our numbers, that we are not a tiny minority, and that objections to CCTV are based on a mountain of facts as well as personal feelings.
Even if you don't have much to say, at the last public meeting, a simple show of hands was asked for to gauge numbers of people for/against.
What with it being a meeting called by the police to discuss crime (and in the context of having talked about crime for the last hour or more with people who are really angry about it), it was no surprise that most people there were "in favour of CCTV" - and this was then used as a basis for extending their views to the whole community.
Please don't let a handful of self-selecting reactionaries - mislead by a lack of information and deliberate talking-up of the supposed "benefits" of CCTV from the police - condemn Forest Fields to being spied on, simply because those who oppose the scheme get mistaken for an insignificant paranoid minority.
It is absolutely essential that we make our presence known at this meeting, bring up inconvenient facts, ask difficult questions, and stimulate further informed debate about CCTV. (We could have a field day just from the Evening Post article alone - just look at the misleading, zero-basis-on-fact comments from PC Mark Tindall!)
So, see you there!!
Secondly, this coming weekend (18-19th April) and in the run up to the meeting, we will be doing a leaflet drop around Forest Fields to raise awareness of the facts about CCTV which the council, police and "Area 4 Neighbourhood Management Team" will no doubt fail to mention in their door-to-door leaflet and survey. If you could spare an hour or two to deliver some leaflets, please get in touch with us at the email address below.
Thirdly, the "Area 4 Neighbourhood Management Team" are going to be posting a consultation leaflet through our doors prior to the meeting. Please use yours to object strongly to the scheme. We will be posting our own leaflet up here in the next 24 hours, which contains plenty of information about why you might want to object to CCTV.
Fourthly, after the consultation leaflet comes round, please try to discuss it with your neighbours where possible, get people informed, and raise awareness about why CCTV is bad news for Forest Fields. If you need help getting started,
http://www.no-cctv.org.uk/ contains plenty of useful information (although you may have to trawl the site a little bit to uncover it). Finally, if you would like to be involved in any way with organising against CCTV in Forest Fields, please contact us at the email address below.
e-mail:
Homepage:
Morons
17.04.2009 05:07
Everyone knows the police are only putting up the CCTV so they can watch you as you go about your daily business and so they can stare through your windows....
BUT WAIT!
You're making the totally bollocks assumption that the police actually give a shit about what you're doing, that the CCTV operators will spend their day following you around as you come back from the shops or have a wank in your front room.
Get a grip. Stop scaring people with uninformed shit that the police are goinging to be spying on us and trying to force your own anti-authority views on the rest of the residents.
Oki
Back to reality...
17.04.2009 08:24
Even the Home Secretary is worried about the extent to which councils abuse CCTV:
"Councils should not use surveillance powers for minor offences... Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has said."
Minor offences such as littering, which the Evening Post pro-CCTV propaganda uses as one of the major selling points of the scheme.
Well known anti-authoritarian, Shadow home sec Chris Grayling, has said of recent surveillance legislation ""It was supposed to be there to tackle terrorism and serious crime. Instead it's being used by both the government and hundreds of local authorities to pry into all kinds of different parts of people's lives. It has to stop."
I know that this is just testimony from some extremists on the fringes of society (probably anarchists, the lot of them) but there is plenty of hard evidence that CCTV has no impact on crime, including from the Home Office's own reports. It also increases people's fear of crime.
Rather than calling everyone who disagrees with you a moron, Oki, shouldn't you actually educate yourself about the issues first?
Not a spy
New letter and poster now up
17.04.2009 18:12
For those interested in what the leaflet says, please see:
There is also an accompanying poster which has been put up in a few places locally, see:
Hopefully tomorrow, we'll be adding more facts (with sources) to our website for discussion at the public meeting.
Once again, if anybody would like to help post leaflets around Forest Fields for a few hours this weekend, please get in touch using our email address.
Forest Fields Folks Against CCTV
e-mail:
no_cctv@forestfields.org.uk
Homepage:
http://www.forestfields.org.uk/category/cctv/