Make Sure Notts Councillors Know How We Feel About Their Incinerator Plans

cousins. I know your connect to great people up their from working up in Mansfield on afew horticultural & building sites as well as being involved with the Mansfield Woodhouse sherwood tree campaign that must have cost the gentrifying housing companies millions.
NCCouncil & others in government should listen& not to the scapegoating hate campaign that sadly many in right wing New Labour have helped brew that is the BNP.
The real oppostion are the libertarian greens,decent unions & some in the old Labour-coop party who do their best to keep new labour in check. The "independents" are interesting, but many of them semm not to be that independent really.

We need decent politicians of all colours to help us get direct social & economic democracy,not the 5 yr "representative" often corrupt sham that we have today, its up to us the people also to help make this happen everywhere. We eat,drink & be merry or stay in miserable suicidal sysytem we live in now, we have a choice, especially those in power now.

Cant resist adding a link to your excellent blog up in deepest darkest sherwood forest
 http://greenmansoccasional.blogspot.com/

I know some French people who tell me that waste incineration (which is very widespread there) is very efficient and that pollution is no longer caused. They completely fail to understand why green activists here are against it.

I would appreciate any comments or links that could help me to find out more about this - plain, simple facts rather than emotion and opinions. Thanks.

Take a look at the very good websites of PAIN and UKWIN linked in the article, you can also get info on Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace etc sites. Basically, incineration is a better option than mixed waste landfill - but no-one is arguing for this to continue - however, it is still next to the bottom of the list of options for waste treatment in terms of ecology, health and sustainability. The real alternatives are much higher recycling and re-use rates, legislation to curb non-recyclable or re-usable packaging, and anaerobic digestion and MBT (Mechanical and Biological Treatment)of much of the remaining waste. Dry tomb waste storage and inert landfill are less of a problem than mixed waste. It is the biodegradable and toxic elements of mixed landfill that are the problem - this is solved by separating these from the waste stream. Mass burn incineration is simply a greenhouse-gas and dioxin producing money spinner for waste firms. It is not a surprise that some French people think incineration is great - Veolia is a French company - take a look at its history and the role of its predecessor Vivendi in political corruption in France. Veolia and others have massive propaganda operation to whitewash their business and industry. French politicians and media (as with their nuclear programme) are largely "bought and paid for" I am afraid, but even there, there is resistance and opposition.
In terms of tech advances modern incineration is better than in the past, but then waste volumes and the nature of toxins now produced are also much more serious.
Some of the latest variations on plasma arc incineration is allegedly very promising, but is still in early stages of development and deployment and very expensive, and even this still dodges the question of the waste of resources inherent in incineration strategies (most materials destined to be burnt are usable in other ways - biodegradables for creating energy/fertilisers etc, other things as raw materials etc.)
In addition to all this, even those who support incineration agree that *this* proposed site is completely innappropriate.
But, as I say, take a look at PAIN and UKWIN's sites - they have gathered a lot of useful info.

This is the "reasons to oppose incineration of domestic waste" page from UKWIN -
 http://www.ukwin.org.uk/?page_id=113

 http://www.writetothem.com/?keyword=councillors%20uk&creativeid=494404119&gclid=CLGStp_39pcCFQ4i3god4lDoDQ

Opposition to waste incineration in France is actually widespread. You French-speaking friends could check out CNIID (Centre national d'information indépendante sur les déchets)

and also visit the Global Anti-Incineration (GAIA) site at  http://www.no-burn.org

Greenman and others; Thank you for taking the trouble. I'll have a good read.