“None of that means the euphoria on the streets of Libyan cities at the fall of a regime long decayed into dynastic despotism isn’t entirely genuine.”
NATO doesn’t look for love letters since the fact that they are psychopaths is fairly well known. The Milne article is addressing a readership which is only too aware of NATO criminal tendencies. But NATO would be delighted that the opposition had concede two fundamental pillars of its propaganda on Libya. Firstly, that Gaddafi had fallen and secondly, that this was grounds for popular celebration in Libya. Those two assumptions give NATO all they need for the next stage of their campaign, the installation of a virtual government in Tripoli which can be declared legitimate because Gaddafi is no more and because the people support it and which can invite a NATO stabilisation force into Libya to help defeat the Gaddafi forces
I also argued to my friend that this kind of article serves as a template for the British left where for all the fine points, the sophistries of left-think, the anti-NATO and anti-imperialist sentiments, these two lies would always be there, hidden, as in the Milne article or in plain sight.
I said lies since there is no evidence for the claim that Gaddafi regime has been defeated. The fact that a fierce power struggle is still going on in Tripoli is one reason why the African Union said they could not recognise the TNC: it would have to be in power. Also why would the TNC invite in NATO ground forces, as reported by TeleSur, to support them if they had won. Why would revolutionary Tripoli be subject to a media blackout if it was in the hands of triumphant revolutionaries and its euphoric supporters.
It is also a lie that there have been mass celebrations: even the media montage which showed “Green Square” being taken over only showed unsavoury looking militants. Where were the people? Could you have imagined a total blackout of Tahrir Square in the midst of those great events in January? Where is Aljazeera to show us jubilant Tripoli. There are no scenes of joy in Tripoli: only a descent into hell.
Of course, there was certainly confusion last Monday about what exactly had happened. There still is, but at the moment of writing in response to the declaration that the rebels had taken Tripoli our leftist editors would have known that NATO had bombed and provided aerial support for the rebels for nearly 6 months without them being able to achieve any real progress. They would have been aware, therefore, that even with massive NATO backing they were militarily incapable. They would have been aware that coordinating with air cover would require special froces with the training to do that. Common sense would have told them that a popular revolution would never have called in NATO in the first place. Common sense would have told them that anti-NATO sentiment would be almost universal and was reflected in massive armed rallies in support of Gaddafi, which even made it into the mainstream media, and massive rejection of those associated with NATO. Common sense would have told them that the liberated women of Libya would not seek the introduction of Sharia law. They would have known of the declaration of the tribes rejecting the TNC. They would have known that even in Benghazi the grip of the TNC was in question after the killing of Younes and outburst of infighting. They would have been aware of the ethnic cleansing against black Libyans, supposed “African mercenaries”, which had also reached the MSM. They would have been aware that many of the claims of acts of brutal repression carried out by Gaddafi had been rejected by NGOs on the ground. They would have been wary of all such propaganda anyway as seasoned campaigners against Western interventions in Kosovo, Iraq and elsewhere. They would have written PHDs about media manipulation.They would have recalled the case of the KLA, another gang of thugs hailed in the West as liberators. They would have been aware of the historic connections between Al-Quaeda type radicals and the CIA. They would have been aware of reports by whistle-blowers David Shayler and Annie Machon that MI6 expected them to collaborate with Benghazi based Al-Qaeda type elements in an attempt to assasinate Gaddafi. They would have recalled the vicious attack on Libya in 1986 on the flimsiest of pretexts, aimed at killing Gaddafi. They might even have marched trough London in protest holding a picture of the Libyan leader. They would have been aware of a pattern of imperial intervention throughout the world: the attempts to overthrow Chavez, to divide Bolivia, to surround Russia and China. They would have been aware of the inexorable growth of militarism and militarist sentiment. Of the tendency of the West to resolve its problems using force alone. They would have been aware of the ongoing attempts to destabilise Syria and Iran, using armed groups infiltrated into these countries, all the time being presented in the media as democratic movements. They would have been aware of the exaltation of NATO as the instrument of the extension of western power throughout the world through war. They would have been aware that there was no sign to the end of the NATO struggle in Afghanistan despite the manifest failure of its military campaign and the endless destruction and death in its wake. They would be aware that NATO bombs and kills indiscrimately, most famous bombing a series of 5 or 6 wedding celebrations in Afghanistan. They would have been aware of this and much more. They would then have considerable background, more than any other section of the population, to help them assess the events of the past week.
With this in mind I decided to check my impromptu thesis of the two lie trick by consulting various online leftist organs
Brendan O’Neil writing in Spiked ( formerly “Living Marxism”) gave us the following
“Across the Arab world, recent upheavals have raised the question of power but have also failed to resolve it satisfactorily; they have put on the table the important matter of political legitimacy, but no forces have been able or willing to claim that legitimacy. This is the case in Libya, too, where it is clear that Gaddafi is finished.”
“And if you believe Libyan observers, many of whom are understandably excited by the momentous events in their country, then NATO forces were a hindrance and only the National Transitional Council (NTC) deserves congratulations for what has happened in recent days.”
So Gaddafi is finished and TNC not only has popular support amongst many but could have done the job without NATO at all. So not even a discreet lie here but a big one, a whopper.
Pulse Media Yassin-Kassab, a commentator who swears by Aljazeera, wrote the following:
“After six months of struggle, the Libyan revolution has arrived (again) in Tripoli. There may still be a trick or two up the megalomaniac’s sleeve, but the news coming in at the moment suggests a precipitous collapse. Saif-ul-Islam al-Qaddafi has been arrested. The tyrant’s daughter Aisha’s house is under the revolutionaries’ control, as is the military base of the formerly feared Khamis Brigade. The brigade in charge of protecting Qaddafi himself has surrendered. (The foreign supporters of Qaddafi and his supposedly ‘loyal’ subjects must be feeling rather silly now). Inhabitants of Tripoli’s neighbourhoods are pouring into their streets to greet the revolutionary forces.”
Again my thesis has been confirmed beyond all expectation
Patrick Cockburn writing in counterpunch offered this:
“As in Kabul in 2001 and Baghdad in 2003, there was no last-ditch stand by the defeated regime, whose supporters appear to have melted away once they saw that defeat was inevitable.”
“But many of those celebrating in the streets of Tripoli and cheering the advancing rebel columns will expect their lives to get better, and will be disappointed if this does not happen.”
Fisk in the Independent seems quite transported and can’t wait for further regime change starting, needless to say, in Damascus:
“The scenes in Green Square yesterday were painfully similar to the crazed adoration on display at the same location for Gaddafi just a few weeks ago.”
“How soon will the liberators of Tripoli metamorphose into the liberators of Damascus and Aleppo and Homs? Or of Amman? Or Jerusalem? Or of Bahrain or Riyadh?”
Socialist Worker has this headline
“As Gaddafi’s brutal dictatorship crumbles…’
Unbelievably they add that
“In Libya it’s too early to judge if all the people will welcome Nato with open arms”
They seem worried that some may not: maybe their not anti-NATO after all.’
Stop the War( I’m not quite sure now which war) seems a bit more guarded but still makes the two key concessions:
“The fall of the Gadaffi regime in Libya marks yet another turning point in what has been a truly remarkable year in the Middle East.”
“While many Libyans may welcome the outcome, and will be glad to see the back of Gadaffi, it has a number of negative aspects.”
According to John Rees, STW spokesperson, on RT
“They[the Libyan people] have got rid of Gaddafi and no one is going to shed any tears for that brutal dictatorship”
According to Worker’s Liberty
“For anyone who believes in basic human freedom, the fact that Muammar Qaddafi’s 42-year long reign of autocratic terror in Libya is seemingly at an end must be a cause for celebration.”
They don’t actually give any evidence of celebrations but presumably the Libyan people believe in basic human freedom and must therefore have celebrated a rampage of drugged-up killers through their capital.
True to form, neither the Scottish Socialist Party nor CND bothered to update their websites but I’m confident that had they done so they would also have been sharing the celebrations of the Libyan people after the overthrow of the brutal dictator.
I rest my case. NATO must be pleased with opponents like these, the antiwar people to whom those of us who wish to actively dissociate ourselves from mass murder might turn. Now, wherever we turn we find that ourselves party-pooping at the celebrations of what, whichever way you look at it, NATO has done.
What can explain this?
Is the left despite all the professors and lecturers in their ranks, all their sinecures inside the “bourgeois” institutions they affect to despise, a rather silly group who just don’t pay attention to what is going on or are they a reserve propaganda arm of the militarists, a sort of B team to catch any who fall through the net of the mainstream media.
I personally desist from the temptation to call the left fools and therefore opt for the second point of view. When Lenin heard that the German Social-Democrats supported the war in 1914 he didn’t believe it. It should now be only too believable that the left will provide further backing for the destabilisation of Syria and Iran and who knows what NATO aggression beyond that.
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Information on Libya - Global Civilians for Peace
29.08.2011 08:14
Global Civilians for Peace in Libya http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/
sam carrington
Media lies on Libya
29.08.2011 12:25
Russia Today interviews an independent reporter from Italy,
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/08/483857.html
SDubois
Massacres, looting in Al Quada Tripoli
29.08.2011 13:36
Since Special Forces and Al Qaida broke through on 25-26.8, massacres of blacks take place in the city.
There is no water supply, the personnel was killed, because they supposedly "supported the state".
In the black neighborhood of Abu Salim massacres, and Nato bombings have taken place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHQR7yfgPE0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cimTe1MhMiA&feature=player_embedded#t=1s
Rebels hunting Gaddafi supporters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECA_bzQri7Y&feature=player_embedded
http://reragnarok.bloggr.no/nato-will-bring-democracy-into-your-home/
Frequently updated pages:
http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/
http://www.facebook.com/Natocrimesinlibya
http://www.facebook.com/TheTruthAboutLibya
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-the-aggression-in-Libya/186296531416909
http://www.facebook.com/A.CallToTheAntiWarMovementAndAllWhoAreStillHuman#!/A.CallToTheAntiWarMovementAndAllWhoAreStillHuman?sk=wall
grapevine
Really cailean bochanan, really.......?
29.08.2011 14:49
I remember when i believed that my idealism trumped the rest of the worlds reality..................Ahhhh we were young.
I applaud your sentiment tho, now if only you did something about it instead of sitting on yer arse at a football match saying that your 25 stone frame of pie and lager can do better than the spoilt effete "athletes/shaved monkeys" on the pitch"
Yes the world is in a shit state, and the past isnt perfect, so get off your high horse and start getting your hands dirty doing something constructive, simply ranting about a done deal saying "i told you so" helps nobody and only feeds your already inflated ego.
And yes you are a reactionary bougouise stooge, but you just dont know it, you are the kind of muppet who when on a protest march comes across a police van parked blatatantly in the road as a provocation/photo op shouts "yay smash the state" and gets himself in the local paper as "anarchist" when all you is is another fashion victim just dressed differently.
P.S. i am very glad qatari spec ops led the charge, its how it should be, ok so western intelligence is now blind in libya, egypt and tunisia, but they dint know squat b4 it appened so whats new.....
Points A,B,C
A,
NTC would not have won without nato, Period.
B,
I'm not going to tell libyans what to do, let them decide for themselves.
C,
At a certain point you stop caring about being right about whatever subject you spout opinions on and start taking actions to change the situation.(if you really care)
Please hurry up and join us, as you can see we need all the help we can get.
Hugs x
dave
Left disinformation
29.08.2011 19:35
The Left will agree with Human Rights Watch who are now saying that Gaddafi's forces killed prisoners and others when the rebels entered Tripoli. They also want to say they are against NATO's actions. AntiWar typifies this, http://news.antiwar.com/2011/08/28/rights-group-evidence-emerges-of-revenge-killings-across-tripoli/#newbosssameasoldboss
But firstly most non-political people will dismiss the Left argument. How can they argue that GAddafi was a brutal dictator who was murdering his own people and then say to NATO don't do anything about it?
But it is important that the Left don't challenge the dictator smear. We were told over the weekend that the rebels walked into Tripoli virtually unchallenged. The Libyan army just melted away. Now, we are being told that while the rebels were taking over Tripoli, the Libyan army were slaughtering innocent people - no wonder it was so 'easy' for the rebels.
Total, utter nonsense. The dead are more likely those people killed by NATO when the use violence to 'clear a path' for the rebels.
In terms of Gaddafi as a brutal dictator, what was the Human Rights Watch saying in January 2010? Look at this and point out to me where it says Gaddafi was a blood-soaked dictator, http://bit.ly/pdJb99
SDubois
Unbelievable
29.08.2011 21:06
Clearly, this is complete troll nonsense and should not be given a platform
the real left