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Entire BNP membership list goes online

Lancaster Unity | 18.11.2008 11:47 | Anti-racism | Repression | Social Struggles | Liverpool

Oops.

Before reading this, you should appreciate that there are very strict limitations on what we are allowed to print and we intend to stay strictly within the law in the comments that we allow.

Having said all that, this breach of data security is startlingly bad for the BNP, not simply for the fact that the party has lost data - almost everyone seems to have managed to do that recently - but for the nature of that information.

Not only does the data, now available online, include the entire membership list with full names (and former names where there have been changes for any reason), addresses, contact numbers, email addresses and in many cases the member's age, particularly where those members are under eighteen. Yes, that's right. This list includes members as young as fourteen, male and female. Where a family membership is bought and paid for, the whole family is listed.

As if this isn't bad enough, the notes that are attached to many of the entries leave a lot of the members open to difficulties in their jobs, some of them being in the armed forces or the police and the BNP too - an illegal combination, and where not illegal, frequently frowned upon. Other members are noted as construction managers, receptionists, district nurses, lay preachers, police officers, company directors and teachers among many others.

Like this wasn't enough, the BNP has also listed hobbies or interests where for some reason they are deemed relevant. Thus we have short-wave radio hams, amateur historians, pagans, line-dancers and even a witch (male)...

More here:  http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2008/11/breaking-news-entire-bnp-membership.html

Lancaster Unity
- Homepage: http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/

Comments

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where was this available

18.11.2008 12:39

bit more info on where the details where posted please??

interested


Details

18.11.2008 13:44

If you read the whole article, you'll see that LU are not giving further details for the very good reason that to do so would land them in court.

James


LINK??

18.11.2008 13:55

Please please PLEASE?

ConcernedActivist


Erm?

18.11.2008 13:57

If its already available online, they cant been held responsible if someone posts a link to the info surely, just post under a different name or something? Get on with it though, Im getting excited!

ConcernedActivist


link

18.11.2008 14:01

if anyone could email the link to webmaster [at] kiasworld.co.uk i would be greatful

Kia


End up in court?

18.11.2008 14:39

If all they post is a link to the site that is hosting the list, they should be no more liable than someone saying "That guy over there sells drugs" is guilty of drug dealing.

MonkeyBot


Anonymously

18.11.2008 14:49

Surely you can post them anonymously or is this another fictitious story by uaf

Bash the fash


Who gives a fuck unless...

18.11.2008 16:08

UAF hurry the fuck up and paste that info over the internet.
I think by now it is obvious that this story is true, so here the two choices that UAF are faced with -

*Put that membership list in the public domain, so individual antifascists can decide for themselves how to act

Or

*Show themselves up to be an authoritarian, ineffectual pressure group

If that info gets a bit more public, this could be the end of the BNP - home demos, leafleting neigbours, alterting workplaces etc - we could seriously fuck the BNP up!

Come on, do the right thing - give us those addresses

(A) Sab x


thought

18.11.2008 16:13

you are such a bunch of hopeless pricks.

boris


The best place........

18.11.2008 16:36

........for this list is on wikileaks.

Red riding hood


It's all lies

18.11.2008 16:43

They haven't got it, there is a list and they know there is a list but this is just their pathetic attempt to flush it out.

Real nazi hunters have got it not a bunch of middle class drunks who think standing up to the bnp is posting on indymedia.

Bored with middle class posturing against the bnp


Ner-ner

18.11.2008 17:10

Simple Spyman


x

18.11.2008 17:21

x


knock yourself out heres the list

18.11.2008 18:08

El Alamein


how about this for Ironic.

18.11.2008 18:30

from the list.

Mr
William F.
Wren
401 Cable Street
London
E1W 3DP
0207 265 8948
 dickybird2327@hotmail.com

Alanis Morrisette


Emails to Facebook faces :)

18.11.2008 18:54

Weird, when you search for the emails in that list it brings up photos.... on facebook :D

Professor of Smirkology


To A Sab..

18.11.2008 19:01

"home demos"??

You do know you can be nicked for them now!

ARC


What happens if you are in the army then?

18.11.2008 20:38

Mr Fagan might have some explaining to do, what happens if you are a serving soldier?

Mr
Eddie
Fagan
80 PC Sqn, 29 Regt RLC
Duke of Glos Bks, South Cerney
Cirencester
Gloucestershire
GL7 5RD
07742 993469
 eddiefagan930@hotmail.co.uk

Heheh

ConcernedActivist


Concerned Activist

18.11.2008 20:52

If your in the Army you are looking for a new job.

Quality


Finding the army members...

18.11.2008 21:06

search the blog for sqn, regt, army, barracks

ConcernedActivist


Dear me, how ironic

18.11.2008 21:33

Mrs
Yvette
Bettley
90 Davenham Avenue
Prenton
Wirral
Merseyside
CH43 2LW
0151 200 8153
07917 038656
 r3ymb@hotmail.com
Activist. Lyndsey (15) YBNP Sup Club. Family: Stephen & Richard Bettley. Under 16s Comps slip. Discretion required re. employment concerns
Police officer

Discretion required eh? Bit late for that....OFFICER.

McComplice


Here's is the list

18.11.2008 21:34

I don't think there's anything wrong with belonging to the bnp.

Here's their full membership list:

bnpmemberslist(DOT)blogspot(DOT)com/

Nothing to be ashamed of guys.

ssand


what the...

18.11.2008 21:50

Jesus.... you lot sound like a bunch of rabid dogs.
Your almost sound like your frothing at the mouths.
What you going to do? go on a witch hunt?

I always knew socialist hippies were spiteful - and it seems that reading this article and its comments that you lot as just as bad as the BNP.
Anyway, i doubt anyone will lose their jobs because that would be illegal.

Ian


Disgusting

18.11.2008 21:53

I counted six Reverends on that list. How utterly disgusting. With any luck they will be removed from the clergy.

McComplice


Ian, you are wrong .

18.11.2008 22:04

"Anyway, i doubt anyone will lose their jobs because that would be illegal.! says Ian.

"The Association of Chief Police Officers has banned police officers and staff from belonging to the BNP. Last month a Greater Manchester police officer was forced to resign after he was seen wearing a BNP badge at a football match" says the Telegraph
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/3479612/BNP-membership-list-leaked-onto-internet.html

Yvette Bettley
- Homepage: http://www.spitefulsocialisthippies.org


BNP LIST

18.11.2008 22:09

Big Deal!
Still making indirect threats then, ie in adding personal details endangering families etc.

Concerned of Leeds


Good work

18.11.2008 22:37

by the wikileaking brigade. Can they now get us a full membership list of Liberty? This tiny, unrepresentative, politically biased, unelected organisation gets plenty of airtime on the BBC. Shami Chakrabati is never off the government's TV screens.

I expect we'll never see that list. I wonder if that's because many BBC staff and wikileaking types are members themselves?

Pete


Ian - BNP members cannot be prison officers

18.11.2008 22:39

Staff in the Prison Service are not permitted to be a member of the following organisations -:

British National Party

National Front

Combat 18

See Annexe A -
psi.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/PSI_2001_042_staff_membership_of_racist_ groups_and_organisations.doc

Which is bad news for me:

Mr
Robert
Stewart
4 Main Street
Stamford Bridge
York
North Yorkshire
YO41 1AB
01759 373419
 rjsstewart@aol.com
Prison officer

Robert Stewart
mail e-mail: rjsstewart@aol.com


Yvette, we'll see

18.11.2008 23:09

Police Officers are actually barred from playing an active role in ANY political party, but they don't have to disclose any affiliation. However, if they avoided political activity they could join any party (the BNP is a legal organisation).

You also have to remember the list was stolen (not lost as this article suggests), so to use that information as a basis for dismissal or any legal action would be very dubious practice that could backfire with absolutely spectular results both legally and in the press.

Let's just hope no one gets hurt over this, because some of these comments seem to be hinting at taking direct action at anyone of the 10,000 people which is very, very disturbing.

I dont like the BNP, but I think they are just dangerous than say the church of scientology.

But, I find this so, so hypocritically, ironic............
How many commenters threatened to camp outside the houses the islamic members that stood outside the Danish embassy shouting "UK, UK you will pay, 7/7 on its way, Jihad, jihad, Europe your 9/11 is on its way". Or posted comments saying the islamic priests should lose their jobs.
No, lets just pick on the BNP reverends instead. Its just seems so...... odd, if thats the right word.

Ian


Odd?

19.11.2008 00:35

Ian, the only thing that's "odd" is the fact that members of the clergy who are meant to give their lives over to promoting peace, tolerance, Christian values and the word of God should choose to associate with a party so closely linked to racial hatred and thuggery.

McComplice


More irony

19.11.2008 00:48

Capt. Hon.
Roy D.
Needler
161 Tolcarne Drive
Pinner
Middlesex
HA5 2DL
07769 583986
 lordbrumby@aol.com
Former policeman. Lecturer in human rights/data protection

Poncy title, stupid e-mail address, and he's a former PC. And he lectures in, er.... HAHAHA!

TDS


police

19.11.2008 00:51

Ian, I think the police don't allow BNP membership (as opposed to voting). David Blunket initiated the policy because he couldn't see how a bnp member could pass the impartiality tests.
I do agree with your point, because it goes totally against Equity laws - discrimination based on political views. I think they call this 'good discrimination' which is ok, as opposed to 'bad discrimination' which shouldn't be allowed.

If someone challenged a sacking, I bet they would probably win a big payout because the equity and human rights laws would certainly override police policy that has not been tested.

Spider


McComplice

19.11.2008 01:28

> "Ian, the only thing that's "odd" is the fact that members of the clergy who are meant to give their lives over to promoting peace, tolerance, Christian values and the word of God should choose to associate with a party so closely linked to racial hatred and thuggery."

Hey, McComplice,
Christianity is one of the most intolerant religions in the history of religions. It has conquered under a blood splattered banner of intolerance since way before the Christian Dark Ages. The Bible is jam packed full of xenophobia paranoia and racial genocide.

Are you actually surprised members of the BNP are Christians? Please no
Thinking about it, they may have actually joined the bnp for religious views (ie. islamophobic) and not racial reasons that you seem to presume.

Afterall, the first of the ten commandments is "you shall have no other gods but me"
I'm sure a famour christian writer once warned: "Truth cannot be sacrificed at the altar of pretended tolerance." All sounds very intolerant to me.

Ian


Linky

19.11.2008 05:07

chris benoit
mail e-mail: chrisb@hotmail.com
- Homepage: http://www.bitofacockup.com


try here

19.11.2008 08:04

anon


Ha ha ha

19.11.2008 08:19

Serves you right! What are you so worried about then? If you stand by your bile ridden policies then stop whinging. My guess is that those with more than one brain cell will realise that actually you are a disgrace to any civilised society. Go Obama!! :o)

Karma


other sources

19.11.2008 08:21

you can find an alternative site with the list here  http://www.bnpmemberslist.co.uk/

blogspot have took theirs down

mick
mail e-mail: cric2k@btinterntet.com


bnp member list

19.11.2008 10:50


thank you - i found the the bnp list !! shocking to see police and prison officers in there - sack the fascist bastards now!

- and very well done to the mole - we may have a democracy and all views are 'tolerated' but bnp ideology is too close to the nazi ideology of KKK style white supremists to respect in any way - don't let them spread their poison
- the info should have been secure but thankfully someone blew them out - so as we're the 'humanists' here lets be careful with how we use the info - don't become as bad as the bnp are and go launching into fire bombings or anything -

LETS send them an obama postcard wishing them a happy white christmas!!

if the bnp want to fight the moslems so much i would bring our troops home and organise the bnp and the taliban to have their own battle to the death - now there's a win win!

ps - talking of win win - a quick comment on the credit crunch?
HA! - told you so you ignorant greedy bastards


(i honestly don't know who's worse:- fascist bankers or fascist wankers)


rich from glastonbury - climate activist


fascist watch

19.11.2008 11:19

What to do now?

We have known our neighbour is a fascist for some time, it took 2 years to work out who was leaving the BNP calling cards on our doorstep, knocking on our door and then running off. This was intimidation pure and simple. I was actually a little bit fearful until I worked out who it was. Then I laughed.

I am seeking some sort of retribution on the person who used these intimidation tactics.

Yes I know not to sink to their level and an eye for an eye and a tooth or a tooth is not always the best route to take. But, what right has one human being got to make others live in fear?

Intelligent, non-illegal, maybe immoral ideas welcome :)



jimbo jones


Revenge

19.11.2008 12:03

It is only human nature to have an overwhelming sense for revenge.

But why bother? Why give such an individual a minute of your precious life. They are worthless and meaningless. Ignore them.

No doubt they are now living in fear expecting that brick through the window, abusive phonecalls or being pounced on by a gang of anti-facists.

Let tthem stew in their own juices and treat them as the worthless things they are. Free your life of the thoughts of revenge. Why stoop to their low level - you are much better than that worthless individual.

Al
mail e-mail: al5129@gmail.com


Double Standards

19.11.2008 12:28

It's funny, neither Nick Griffin, the BNP or any of their apologists have ever mentioned privacy or human rights in all the years that Red Watch has been publishing names, addresses and photos of Trades Union activists, Anarchists, Syndicalists, Socialists, Communists, community activists, anti-racists etc. Now that the tables have turned they're all out whinging and blubbing like infant schoolchildren looking to get their nappies changed. Pathetic.

Pete


Beware - even a bit torrent of this might be illegal?

19.11.2008 13:33

To those people trying to obtain this list, be aware that even bit torrents of this text file carry some risk, so searching Google for 'bnp membership torrent' may lead to illegal downloads.

Similarly, wikileaks is a risky place to try for this information. You have been warned.

Kevin Sweeney


WTF!

19.11.2008 13:46

Great news that the list has come out - anything to undermine the BNP is great stuff.

Police (dont know about Prison) officers are not allowed to be a member of the BNP (as well as freemasons) - it doesnt matter if they take an active role or not - you declare your membership - not what you do.

How stupid though must have people been to have given the real job to these people when it could mean the sack etc

Wes


It is wrong to publish details

19.11.2008 14:38

I cannot believe that people are continuing to publish details of those contained on the BNP list - what kind of society are we living in? STOP publishing details and remove all links. The information is private to the individuals.

concerned


Another copy

19.11.2008 14:42

These sites are getting blocked as fast as they're going up.

The list will be hosted here for as long as possible (foreign hosting, so good luck to them shutting me down, HA!)

 http://www.smoothound.org/blog/index.html

Griff
mail e-mail: griff@smoothound.org
- Homepage: http://www.smoothound.org


Griff is wrong

19.11.2008 15:07

Griff ... why are you doing this? You seem to be hosting the list from mediatemple ...... and using a UK ISP ...... I am sure they will wish to the decent thing and take the link down .. if not realise their legal obligations.

concerned


calm down

19.11.2008 15:14

*Put that membership list in the public domain, so individual antifascists can decide for themselves how to act

This type of comment is scary. Lets imagine that you are a child and that your mum or dad paid up to join the BNP and now your family home address is on this list.

So the 'antifacists' 'act' and you get caught up in it too - is this really fair on the children of these people ?

Also - what about people that have moved house - this list is fairly old now. It also mentions that some of the people on the list have never been members. Please think about these aspects before doing something stupid.

hatred and violence only breeds....more hatred and violence.

before you start thinking this is a BNP supporter, I am asian and certainly not supportive of such groups.





basford folk


@jimbo

19.11.2008 15:49

"Intelligent, non-illegal, maybe immoral ideas welcome"

You could try educating them. Send them anti-fascist literature on a regular basis.
You could make everyone that provides a public service to them, like their postman, that they are members.
If they work, inform their colleagues.
You can stick a copy of local names up on local message boards. Best to verify first hand that they are members.
You can legally chalk the pavement outside their house.
You could organise an ethnically themed street party outside their house.

Dexter


stop this harassment

19.11.2008 16:10

It is wholly improper to be using peoples data in this way - whatever we think of their beliefs .. values ..... it is wrong to seek to abuse/harrass/threaten .. etc . I note that some who are publishing details on websites themselves fail to register their own details. Take Griff .. a member of a band 'reborn' and in whose name smoothound is registered. Griff's mobile number is 07795005708 ... he is or was selling a car .. (reg details available) ....... he or reborn are at 16 main street wilberfoss .... the difference in my posting this data is that Griff has made this information publicly available .. those on the BNP list have not ...... take down the lists and stop publishing peoples private data .....

even more concerned


smoothound in breach of UK law????

19.11.2008 16:22

A point to be considered is whether smoothound and others have unlawfully obtained the data and are in addition in breach of the UK Data Protection Act 1998 for unauthorised and unlawful disclosure. The publication of the data is not in anyway in the public interest and is a gross infringement of the right to respect of the members private and home lives ... I would love to see the Information Commissioner take action on this .. and who knows .. perhaps the ICO has details of smoothound already. NO I am not a member of the BNP but am deeply troubled by the actions taken by some on this list and elsewhere ..


privacywatch


Solidarity warn bosses

19.11.2008 17:11

Bosses have been warned by the Nationalist Trade Union Solidarity that they will take action against them if they discriminate against or victimise any BNP member who is also a member of the Union. They have also stated that they will trace any publisher who carries material leading to the harassment of one of their members and take appropriate civil and criminal action against them.

Solidarity is further extending immediate Union protection to new members without any qualification period.

Art of War


BNP Website in breech of UK law

19.11.2008 17:53

Incitement to racial knifings
Incitement to racial knifings

I can't see how this advert on the current BNP website is deemed legal. The activists on the list will be pedalling incitement like this and worse. Racism does indeed cut both ways, and the BNP may live to regret that slogan.

D


Dedicated followers of fascism

19.11.2008 19:01

Is it any less fascist to be threatened with the sack because you dont support the Political views of your bosses . I thought in a Democracy we wre allowed freedom of speach and freedom of thought , but maybe i am being naive .

john davies


BNP website in breach of uk law

19.11.2008 19:09

whether the BNP website is in breach of UK is for the authorities to determine .. it still does not give anyone the right to publicise the private details of 12,800 individuals ... the ad does not legitimise the actions of smoothound or others .. and indeed, I am sure the police are already looking at such sites and the illegal publication of the data ....... if I suffered harm as a result of smoothound making public my private data then I would certainly press for action via the courts (just to be clear, I am not a member of BNP and do NOT support the beliefs etc)_

privacywatch


available as a torrent

19.11.2008 22:41

give it s search, its there as a torrent

njk
- Homepage: http://bkb


Shove this up ya REDWATCH!

19.11.2008 23:01

Dale Abbot
mail e-mail: home@daleterrier1.wanadoo.co.uk


Proximity Search by Postcode

20.11.2008 02:52

Rick Niffen


@ jimbo

20.11.2008 13:35

If you have the guy's name and address, just start signing him up for every retarded piece of junkmail and marketing you come across. Some kind of book/dvd club that sends you things and then hassles you to pay for or return them would be good - just make sure it isn't anything he'd actually want. Maybe a language course in Urdu.

Sure, it's a bit childish, but immensely enjoyable and also apropriate given the BNP junkmail he was leaving for you.

MonkeyBot


Point made

20.11.2008 15:03

You're right. Hosting this list will expose some people who aren't deserving of the attention.

I've removed the list from my site. Would be nice if some were to remove my details also.

Griff
mail e-mail: griff@smoothound.org
- Homepage: http://www.smoothound.org


IMCista

20.11.2008 15:21

Griff is asking for his details to be removed from this thread. Understandably.

If anyone isn't able to download a copy, then make up an anonymous email address and post it on this thread and a copy of the list will be sent to you as a txt file and and an xls file.

ex


stop this now

20.11.2008 15:49

Please stop posting the list ... Griff's details have already been passed to the police and the Information Commissioners office .... it is ILLEGAL and IMMORAL to post the list. DO the decent thing and stop NOW.

concerned


SCUM

20.11.2008 17:08

You have passed Griffs details onto the authorities and yet claim the moral high ground ? What a fucking nazi thing to do, no surprise I guess. It makes me want totake some direct action against Nazis. The list will be passed onto every local union, religious group and political party, plus the local names will be passed through the letter boxes of all their neighbours.

What Nazis like concerned have to realise is that they are all at our mercy now, and any shitty retaliation will be punished ten fold.

"Concerned", it is fairly easy for us to find out the identity of anyone who makes a complaint to the information commisioner. You, personally, should consider leaving the country for your own safety. I have more respect for dog-meat.

Danny


Hosting the list isn't illegal

20.11.2008 17:41

Every news organisation has releseased details that prove that they downloaded and possess the list. Until the investigation in Wales is completed I'll be happily and accountably passing it along to anyone I know who wants it.

Here is some good advice for those on the list.

Like Griffin said, the information is out, so pucker up and be brave, or choose to be sensible and deny you have anything to do with the BNP. If you are on the list and you are not male, 18-60 and an activist then you have nothing to fear from any anti-fascist.
Now would be a suicidly-stupid time for the BNP hardcore to try and escalate matters.

For the Record


Pure blood

20.11.2008 18:05

I've seen lots of people listed who claim not to be BNP members, and the relevant anti-fascists support the BNP claim that the list is inaccurate. Has someone started to compile a revised list yet ? One without the kids, pensioners and deniers ?

I'll compile a sub-list just of male BNP activists (18-60) if anyone would prefer it.

again


Attention Hippies!

20.11.2008 21:14

Everyone stop bleating for the fucking fash. So they've been outed and some are going to get a beating, good, if it was up to them, the majority of us on Indymedia would be in prison at least. It's us and them, the fascists and the left, we've got the upper hand so let's stop being liberal hippy arseholes and do something, leaflet their neighbours if you don't want to bust some skulls, otherwise, bust some skulls!!!

Redskin


Redskin

21.11.2008 13:52

Fucking spot on!!!!!!!!!

I Hate The Fash


They maybe a nazi party, lets see what happens& then rather than busting

22.11.2008 16:46

nazi skulls,which isnt a great idea at this stage, even they are confirmed hardcore nazis. Yes lets humiliate them & then if they continue after having it explained to them that BNP are nazis only a minority of people would have sympathy if they got bashed, though really they should be re-educated if possible or have their liberties taken away.

James


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