Ban the BNP

"they represent the poor iddle whitey minority",
Fu*k cultural & pc apartheid, BNP live off it, manipulate always have done.
Many of them need sectioning, most reconditioning into humane society, their leaders want a literal blood bath.
Giving their leaders platforms at universities etc is the worst kind of Chamberlainism, they need pulling out now along with the roots of a way of life & system that grows such things.

Mosts Uni's 2day aren't about Learning,love or fists stops fascism!people hate fash
One community, not cultural apartheid & seperate ghettos,radio stations for asians, africans,whites its a trap!!!!!!!!!!Divide & bloody rule!
"they represent the poor iddle whitey minority",
Fu*k cultural & pc apartheid, BNP live off it, manipulate always have done.
Many of them need sectioning, most reconditioning into humane society, their leaders want a literal blood bath.
Giving their leaders platforms at universities etc is the worst kind of Chamberlainism, they need pulling out now along with the roots of a way of life & system that grows such things.

If you replace "BNP" by "Jews" or "Pakis" in your little rant it will emphasize how your message appears to be merely baseless hate speech of the lowest grade.

If you replace "BNP" by "The Labour Party", it becomes interestingly realistic in several places IMO.

BTW are you the same person who posted the other day a report about an alleged victim of neonazi vilolence in Russia with no links, pics or interview whatsoever but only three bank account numbers to which to wire money ?

Yeah, absolutely, it was a rant, I just finished reading Ann Frank, and variously considering Hashude and the US liberation of Dachau (where the US soldiers, correctly, in my opinion, executed most of the SS guards after finding a train full of dead people), and contemplating recent debates within Indymedia re; anti semitism, and needed to let off steam with a rant. But, if you had said to me thirty years ago that the BNP would have councillors "serving" today I wouldn't have believed you. So there we are, they have a vestige of credibility which I frankly don't believe they are entitled to, very much in the model of the NAZIS. So, yeah, it's a rant, unsubstantiated, no pictures or quotes or references, but frankly, I'll say it again. Ban the BNP. Let them be an illegal organisation. As to the Labour Party, democracy and the rest. Well, you got to have your say, didn't you? The answer is in the question.

Thiis rant is nothing but an incitement to hatred and not what one would expect from someone who seems to be so concerned about preserving democracy.
I realise that most people reading this will be on the left and therefore brainwashed into thinking that the BNP are nazis,but the reality is that they are a legally constituted political party representing growing numbers of people who are sick and tired of the old parties 'incompetence and inability /unwillingness to at least restrict immigration to manageable levels .They also have other policies such as economic self-sufficiency which makes a great deal of sense in a world where people of all nations are effectively slaves to the global market and big corporations.I don't see much radical thinking along these lines on the left of the political spectrum.
The poster is clearly opposed to democracy himself and in favour of locking people up for "thoughtcrimes" and daring to freely express their political opinion.Isnt that just the sort of thing that real fascists might do?
A few years ago the "far right" did indeed attract a lunatic fringe of hardcore fascists and was rightly shunned by the electorate.However,the BNP are a very different party now and there is a very real chance that they will substantially increase their share of the vote,as they seem much more in tune with popular thought than any of the main parties and certainly much more so than any on the far left.,whose obsession with suppressing free speech and banning everthing they don't like isn't ever going to make them many friends.

How on earth does one deduce from one's "rant" that one is a "leftist?" Unless for the purpose of afixing a red star to one's lapel and marching one off to the "re-education" block? One might deduce far more from your own comments apropos your own political leanings. "at least restrict immigration"? At least? And at most, Tim C? What would you do at most? "slaves to the global market." I recognise this rhetoric. "A few years ago the "far right" did indeed attract a lunatic fringe of hardcore fascists." ??? The far right, surely, IS a lunatic fringe of hardcore fascists. The answer is in the question.

One merely proposes that the BNP be afforded a similar status to Al Qaeda, an organisation which has equivalent goals, i.e. the division, repression and extermination of peoples unsimilar to themselves. Society, especially democratic society, has the right to defend itself against those who would seek to destroy it. "Thoughtcrimes." ??? Pot, kettle, black, one might deduce, good sir.

Fortunately I don't believe that the BNP are vaguely in tune with popular sentiment or belief, and they need only visit Elland Road of a Saturday afternoon to find out exactly what I mean. However, they are a threat, ideologically and practically, and one can only hope that legal precedent quickly establishes a strong case against them so that masking fascism behind a vestige of "respectability" is recognised for the crime which it so clearly is.

Ban the BNP.

Legislating against the BNP is not the answer. Calling on an oppressive government to legislate against the bnp is far from productive or progressive. The BNP may well be a mix of racists/white supremacists and down right reactionaries but the fight against them must take place at a grass roots level if its to be succesful, in our communities and workplaces. The best way to undermine the bnp and other fascist groups is to organise working class solidarity against employers, politicians and landlords at a grass roots level, across racial and national boundaries. Fascism feeds off apathy and disillusionment. The ay to combat this is to build class struggle in our communities.

The bloke suggetsing that fighting the BNP is tantamount to being a racist or anti-semite forgot to mention the fact that the bnp is a fascist party and not a nationality or religion, hence it contains a political programme, one that is particularly devicive and damaging to working class communities.

The pro-bnp troll comments and deliberately distracting remarks on this thread (designed to make anti-fascists appear gormless) come from Mark "Lolita-Eyes" Collett, the fiend accused by the rebels of trying to seduce underage girls into his bed at the Blackpool BNP conference, a charge the state-controlled BNP refused to investigate.

The BNP is jam-packed full of child abusers and perverts.

One of the key ex-bnp members who shed the light on the behaviour of Collett at the hotel was Sharon Ebanks.

Who, me? Are you saying that I am Mark Collett? Who is being deliberately "distracting" and "gormless?" I agree that the "Troll" was clearly preaching fascist doctrine. If he was/is who you say, then, well, whatever.

I don't define myself as an "Anti Fascist," but I am against fascism, in all its various countenances.

'Definitely agree that Fascism/NAZISM/BNP need to be confronted at all levels, including community, art, politics, education, activism, etc. But, 'do not consider an "organisation" which is opposed to democracy, however you want to judge the state of our current democracy, to have a part to play within that democracy. People have laid down their lives for the rights we enjoy today, even for those people who don't enjoy or appreciate those rights, and whilst one may as an individual, within the context of freedom of speech, utilise that right to espouse beliefs which would ultimately remove that right, it is still difficult to see what right an organisation which would remove those rights has to play within the democratic process. I don't think it's a new argument, but I do think it's still valid. It seems to me that fear of BNP going underground, for example, as is cited with regard to registered paedophiles, were the BNP to become a prohibited organisation, is not a problem as most of their flaccid brown shirt pageantry presumably already takes place behind closed doors, anyway, and also they are rather easy to spot. The danger the BNP poses to our society, however much you might choose to criticise that society, is that we are allowing them a credibility which they would not be able to muster were they excluded from our society, which is exactly the same as happened in the Weimar. The NAZIS built on their given credibility by undermining the very democratic process which had conferred their credibility in the first place. I see no difference with the BNP or, for that matter, UKIP. Organisations and individuals which wrap themselves in national flags are usually choosing to do so for the purpose of masking their real intentions and should be prevented from doing so.

BTW is the spell check for Indymedia UK on a US setting as it seems to redline UK spellings?