A bit beyond 'fighting the fash' or the carbon emissions scam, but worth some regard
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paul | 02.05.2007 21:51 | Globalisation | Sheffield
paul
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03.05.2007 09:45
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Comments
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Sounds like left meets rught here
02.05.2007 22:20
Irony Man
The paradigm
02.05.2007 22:29
paul
e-mail: wy911@goowy.com
Do I get...
02.05.2007 23:16
chazza
Forget that
02.05.2007 23:58
http://westyorkshiretruth.aceboard.com/225988-6441-4811-0-Song-quot-Towering-Lies-Requiem-Ground-Zero-quot.htm
dh
What the fuck is that!
03.05.2007 09:41
Drop my Sandwich
I'll help...
03.05.2007 09:49
Can't stop laughing
Denial
03.05.2007 21:23
Each of the topics are popping up all over
Things have changed and we need to keep ahead of the changes
On chemtrails for example, do your research and find out what's really happening
I know this isn't a favourite for indyianistas but take time out to study
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies
Study the material, ferchrisakes
Research and counter it if you have to
Dont just resort to the usual left gatekeeper piss take of tinfoil hat but study it
That will soon change your mind
paul
Fringe issues...
03.05.2007 23:45
- Empire, permanent war, the "war on terror", oil and capitalism
- The history of state terrorism, Ireland, Israel, gladio etc
- The anti-war movement, Vietnam to the present
- 9/11, disinformation and information warfare
- The energy crisis and climate change, peak oil and permaculture
- Free software, DIY culture and independent media
- The police state, ID cards, privacy and electronic surveillance
- Prison camps, Guantánamo, rendition, terror raids and the demonisation of Muslims
- Nuclear warfare, depleted uranium, the real weapons of mass destruction
- Borders, migration, nationalism and the nation state
If you think that 9/11 wasn't some kinds of an inside job then perhaps the debate that happened here last month might be a good place to start:
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/leedsbradford/2007/04/366804.html?c=on#comments
Regarding contrails there is an issue here, see this site for example:
"The word Contrail stems from 'condensation' and 'trail'. Aviationsmog (that's what it really is) is caused by airtraffic at great heights. Each day, jetengines of airplanes dump vast amounts of water (ice), CO2, soot particles (condensation nuclei), aërosols and chemical substances. Airtraffic thus not only alters the properties of the higher regions of our troposphere but also all the regions below, right down to groundlevel. This extra layer of man-made high-altitude smog probably infuences weather, climate and the quality and quantity of the sun's radiation that reaches the surface of Earth ("global dimming."). Aviation-smog is responsible for more clouds, rain, drought, bigger hailstones (megacryometeors), a stronger greenhouse effect (global warming), and, maybe, even gives extra power to hurricanes. Still, aviation-smog does not get the scientific and political attention it deserves"
http://www.contrails.nl/
However I have yet to be convinced that we are dealing with chemtrails...
run for the hills
Excellent suggestions
04.05.2007 21:13
Our thought re the Leeds Truth Festivalwas to get 'at the back' of what's going on, which if you dig enough, entails you entering new realities, if you're willing to go there.
Also there are tens of thousands of people willing to go with the wierd end of stuff, who will just yawn at the 'sensibilist' agenda. Why not go for them too?
We have to achieve a widespread consensus to challenge the way the powers that be are disastrously changing the world, and not also just go along with the old paradigm left/right view of things
There is much coming from the old paradigm left that is completely disinformationist, much as there is material coming from what might be regarded as old paradigm right, ie that which is antiwar, anti-state, anti-centralist, pro-freedom, pro-constitution, etc etc
The organisers of the Leeds Truth Campaign are aware of the haw-haw response to the topics of the festival
imo that doesn't mean they are in the least invalid
They are open to debate and need some focus.
I'd be happy to see a series of presentations focussed around your topics and would be more than happy, as I'm sure the Leeds Truth group and the WY Campaign would, to help you organise something around your suggestions
Time is short and we really need to defeat the bastards
paul
Come off it!
04.05.2007 22:29
Don't make me laugh mate.
Secret Societies?? Chemtrails??
Yeah this is REAL important while people are dying everyday. You could have done any kind of event to make people more aware of REAL issues and fuck, wait for it.. direct people into taking direct action.
But hairy fairy conspiracy theories are more important though, right?
Spreading useless information (or information which doesn't lead to any form of direct action) does NOT make you an activist. It makes you an entertainer.
ME
Yes ME
04.05.2007 23:50
People are dying everyday by their thousands worldwide and not from natural but rather from created causes
The George Herbet Walkers and the Cheneys feed on this. Not least the Kissinger and the heinous network behind
Get a grip
paul
For real??
05.05.2007 14:35
BTW that "truth" site looks like an Indymedia rip off.
Who are the wanabes in this, and oh my, failing terribly at it?
No real information
No direct action
NO CREDIBILITY
ME AGAIN
What truth site?
05.05.2007 22:20
There are forms of direct action in operation that challenge the whole list of subjects that the festival presents. But that might seem even more arcane to some of those here. So let's leave that aside for now
It's Saturday night and I should be out and about.
Here's some enjoyable material from the wonderful Immortal Technique who has got the point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5WlQ54Sg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wOfh7xUD8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M72zVuBNpEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81YP6Zxkos
paul
No, the other site
06.05.2007 06:29
ME YET AGAIN
Just coincidence of course - a physical attack
08.05.2007 00:17
Nothing to worry about,of course, just a coincidence
paul
Me too...
09.05.2007 16:02
Headbanger
All this fussing
10.05.2007 13:31
Does it matter whether you believe the information or not? After all, it is only information and will ultimately become 'formless'...that is to mean, it will inevitably dissolve.
We talk about saving the planet. We talk about politics. We analyse the skies. We analyse what's right and what's wrong. We analyse ourselves and others. We analyse this, we analyse that and what do we get out of it? We get more information.
It's time we brought balance to humanity by re-discovering the 'FORMLESS' nature of this wonderful Universe!!
What do we gain from constantly focusing upon 'FORM'- things, thoughts, people...? We gain nothing but more form. The world is bursting at the seams with it!
If all these 'truths' are to have any effect at all (whether they are true or not true) then we need to stop arguing about them. We don't need to be 'ACTIVISTS' because this just causes more arguing, more tension, stress and violence.
If we want to Save the Planet- we need to begin looking into ourselves and understand that we are ultimately FORMLESS BEINGS who manifest FORMS into this reality. This is reality.
The only way to make a difference...is to do nothing. Be still and peaceful. Don;t fear the consequences as they don't exist- except in the FORM of MIND (which is conditioned anyway...) in TIME. The Illusion we have all been conditioned to believe is our LIFE.
Start living life properly and begin to understand that you are NOT your MIND but you are ultimately a FORMLESS BEING!! This will bring peace to the Earth. Peace will manifest...
Love Forever,
Jay
xxx
Jay
Jay take your own advice
12.05.2007 11:49
Very 6th Form
If you missed it you missed something
13.05.2007 23:59
The energy generated has to be experienced
Dont continue to miss out or come shit hits fan I'll decamp over there.
dh
Indymedia?
16.05.2007 22:35
Some people freak out if someone starts talking about stuff not mentioned in the Guardian and of course prople will snigger at it like little kids - that's their problem.
Sometimes people need to be a little more grown up and less self concious about what is, only information, indestead of conforming to the social programming that even mainstream, left high priests like Chomsky cover. If we weren't so bothered about the opinions of others we wouldn't be in this mess, running around triying to fit in with the current line of thinking.
Appeals to riddicule, poisoning the well and rants are like an ape weilding a bone in the current conflict of ideas.
Think!