Ballet Nazi

If Tony White is not, in-fact, in jail, perhaps he will be going along to watch, the next time she's performing in her home town of Leeds, to make peace with the BNP. He's a bit of a secret artisan, White.

Ballet, like the BNP, is lacking supporters...

She must wince when she's about to put on a "tutu", remembering Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

Well weird I used to know her family, both parents were teachers ,used to live near st nicks school in gipton..remember when she got her scholarship to ballet school in London when she was a nipper, seen her as a teenager and she'd turned into a right stuck up little twat.....bet her parents are none too chuffed......regards COG

Hey,
I like to see ballet when I can afford it. It's not just for the so called upper classes though it should be cheaper to see. It's skillful and beautiful to watch. Hate the Nazi's though.

Dave

"In an attempt to achieve the degree of political legitimacy which it believes it needs to win more votes, the extreme rightwing party is attempting to establish itself in affluent areas of the capital such as Belgravia, Chelsea and Knightsbridge.

The BNP already has significant numbers of members living in those areas. They include Peter Bradbury, a leading proponent of complementary medicine who has links to Prince Charles, Richard Highton, a healthcare regulator, and Simone Clarke, principal dancer with the English National Ballet.

There are also dozens of company directors, computing entrepreneurs, bankers and estate agents among the 200 members and lapsed members living in central London. One member is a servant of the Queen residing at Buckingham Palace, while a number are former Conservative party activists.

While leading BNP activists say that up to 100 new recruits are joining each week, most are joining in its traditional white, working class strongholds - and a significant number of new members lapse within a couple of years of joining.

The party is now attempting to recruit many more well-heeled members, and aims to organise them into a branch which it hopes to use in its attempts to dispel the widely held view that it remains a party of thuggish, working-class racists."

I bought The Guardian today on seeing the BNP story on the front page.

I'm a bit disappointed - it dosn't say anything we didn't know already. Griffin is keen on party discipline and members not bringing the party into disrepute. They encrypt their email because they are afraid of being spied on. And they are keen to appear respectable and recruit the middle class.

The question is, is this a genuine shift in policy or a fascade to win seats? I suspect the latter. And if they win a significant number of seats will Griffin be able to maintain the image of respectability. We will see. Certainly they are doing better now then they ever have before.

I think "Laugh at Fash" is being a bit gun-ho here

"pelt rotten eggs at the performers" did it perhaps occor to you that not ALL of the performers were Racist BNP? after all if they were wouldnt that be mentioned? and I think everyone could think of at least one little girl who goes along every week in a pink tou-tou to dance classes, should we pelt these mini Hitlers too?

If her parents were teachers, I bet they are not too happy at their daughter joining an organisation which tried to murder Leeds teachers using Redwatch.

Despite their constant denials, the BNP have contributed to Redwatch.

This is Miss Clarke's official internet site: -  http://www.yschang.co.uk/

Apparently her partner is Yat-Sen Chang from Cuba, and has a parent from China.

I wander if he is aware that the BNP were accused of being behind racist attacks against Northern Ireland's long-settled Chinese community? They apparently colluded with rogue loyalist units in pre-planned racial violence against Chinese people, before last summer's elections, the evil scumbags.

I agree with Dave's comment. Just because some prima donna is both a dancer and a Nazi doesn't mean that all dancers are Nazis. It's bad logic

Come on, RedWatch IS the BNP, everyone knows that.

Redwatch has nothing to do with the BNP apart from the BNP members who contribute to the site no one from the BNP runs the sites we all know it's Kevin Watmough who runs it all and he's not BNP so to blame the BNP for Redwatch is like trying to say the BNP assasinated Kennedy. No wonder anti fascist organisations are struggling to stop the BNP. Redwatch can be stopped the BNP can only be hindered if one man controls Redwatch then remove that man Redwatch ceases to exist as it stands today, it's time to get Watty, bring Watmough down you take them all down the BPP, C18 ,Redwatch and any other piss ant Nazi group linked to him bring Nick Griffin down some other Nazi in a suit takes over.

Explain the fact that many BNP members have taken photograps for Redwatch, especially at the Nick Griffin trial, you stupid nazi troll.

Nick Cass has admitted he has sent in dozens of photographs to Redwatch?

Why do so many Nazis, both BNP and BPP losers, hang around Indymedia like a bad smell, when they have Hitler-loving sites like VNN and Stormponce, to "be amongst their kind"???

This intrigues me.

Anti-racists don't bother posting on Stormponce.

Just wondering if anyone has experienced what was supposed to be hell on earth this Yuletide ? courtesy of Tony Foye /MIB/Patriot/AIM or whatever...the skinny rat face was threatening all sorts {A red xmas ] of wevenge , just wondering if rat boy had got a case of bravery for christmas ?doubt it...regards C.O.G

...or a PINK christmas, if you believe VNN?!?

Still haven't got my comeupance, it is long overdue, it was supposed to happen at the end of October but was then postponed until Crimbo and yet still nowt.

Useless turds.

hi nick , nobody believes you so fuck off back to stormponce you ginger tosser

"Ballet is irrevelevant, elitist, and upper middle class, and it comes as no surprise that its practitioners are sometimes nazis.

No real need for a boycott, is there.., lol"

So no working class people were Nazis then? Perhaps ballet would be less elitist if people like you didn't try and disuade others from taking it up. Why is an art form irrevelent? You haven't given any reasons, you've just stated your views as facts.

Why not leave the reports to someone with a brain?

Someone delete the racist remarks about black people, please. They are illegal in this day and age.

Thanks for your sickeningly racist contributions, nazi trolls. Yes, we all needed to hear some "good, old-fashioned Alf Garnet-style racism. One can dye the colour of your hair, but you can't change your race.... Racism is far more extreme.

Anyway, when you BNP/BPP lot have stopped pleasuring yourselves over homoerotic pictures of dear olf Adolf, perhaps you can make 2007 your new year's resolution, and go out and get a job, instead of sitting at home, idling about, posting sick and twisted trolling comments on Indymedia.

LOSERS!!!!!!

What a tosser. Slagging off the colour of someones hair or its texture when natural is racist because it is using their racial characteristic to slag them off.

Nick Cass has naturally ginger hair so slagging it off is a racist comment. Just like a black man has naturally thick lips and kinky hair. Its sickening that you are only interested in removing my posts when i used the terms as a example, but were happy when the racism was directed at a white.

You are the racist - not me.

References to lips and hair are racial stereotypes from a byegone era, from the days of the Black And White Minstrel films. Your posts (assuming you are a BNP member, show the BNP is still a neo-Nazi party riddled with racism. One thing you won't answer, is why the hell many BNP members worship Adolf Hitler. The man was a genocidal racist maniac, and yet, he is loved by so many BNP members, it's unbelievable.

Oh, don't pretend Mark Collett doesn't wet his pants at the thought of his dear and beloved Fuhrers (Hitler and Griffin)...

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/manchester/2006/06/343541.html

Lancaster UAF | 26.06.2006

Dispatches reporter David Modell films a remarkable six months spent in the questionable company of Mark Collett, former leader of the youth wing of the British National Party and now Head of Publicity of the party, and reveals the true nature of a party trying to reinvent itself and broaden its appeal. A rising star of the BNP, Collet reveals to Modell his deeply held Nazi sympathies. This despite the party's claim it no longer has any association with Nazism.

Full of Collett's lies, deliberately misleading statements, right-wing spin, the most appalling racism, his pathetic vanity and many memorable quotes, among which is the truly memorable, 'Hitler will live on forever - and maybe I will', this 2002 film shows Collett and the BNP up for the nazis that they really are. The joint BNP/National Front demo against the mosque on September 11th is particularly shocking.

Watch this and then tell us that the British National Party are not a nazi party.

You can watch the film or download it from here:  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6143678320365818940&q=young+nazi+and+proud

Lancaster UAF
Homepage:  http://82.69.12.18/lancasteruafblog/

THEN THERE'S THE SCOTTISH HOLOCAUST SONGS

 http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=730&id=131752006

BNP activists caught in Nazi salute at Highlands camp
FERGUS SHEPPARD

SENIOR British National Party activists were present at a camp held in Scotland at which a cross was burned, Nazi salutes given and jokes made about Auschwitz, a forthcoming television documentary claims.

Footage of the camp was acquired by the makers of Nazi Hate Rock, a programme which examines what it claims is the growing use of neo-Nazi bands to influence young followers.

The documentary, to be broadcast on Channel Five next month, also features a leading Scottish BNP activist enthusing about plans to sell CDs containing race-hate songs outside school gates. However, it is the footage of a gathering in the Highlands that may prove embarrassing to the BNP, which has been at pains to present a more voter-friendly image.

The party's own chairman, Nick Griffin - himself currently on trial on racial hatred charges - explains in the programme that the BNP had distanced itself from "black jackets and big boots" to become more electorally acceptable.

Shot in 2005 at an unknown location in the Highlands, the amateur footage depicts Scott McLean, the BNP's Glaswegian deputy chairman, giving what appear to be a series of rapid Nazi salutes at an indoor gathering.

A large wooden cross called the Life Rune, a symbol popular with white supremacist groups, is set alight at the gathering while in a separate scene, Steve Cartwright, a BNP activist, is filmed standing outside a cottage giving a Nazi salute with a colleague. Before saluting, the pair chant in unison: "One-two-three-Auschwitz!"

Mr Cartwright is also a key organiser in Blood and Honour, an organisation which promotes the live appearances and record sales of neo-Nazi rock bands.

He is filmed in the documentary accompanying Nemesis, a Scottish band with right-wing leanings, to a concert in Italy.

Mr Cartwright enthuses to the cameras about plans to sell cheap CDs featuring extreme-right lyrics outside school gates. The tactic has already been tried by American neo-Nazi groups under the name Project Schoolyard.

The Scottish BNP activist says: "There are actually plans to have such a CD come out.

"It's in the early stages at the moment - a Project Schoolyard- type CD by a selection of British bands."

The BNP already runs its own label, called Great White Records.

The documentary was made over six months by the Glasgow-based SMG Television. The producer of the documentary, Neil Mackay, said: "It seemed clear to us that far-right activists are keen to start handing out race-hate CDs outside schools in Scotland and elsewhere in the UK."

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Adolf Hitler? Why???

Adolf Hitler is dead, BNP trolls.

Get that into your stupid thick-as-pig-poo skulls. Stop making those pointless "straight arm salutes in Dewsbury pubs at chuck-out time". It's not going to bring him back from the grave. Neither will there be a fascist revolution in the UK, you idiots!

Forget your hatred against Muslims, immigrants and gay and lesbian people, and take up stamp collecting, or even better, stamp collecting.

Someone remove "Matt Stevens" racist comments about black people.

STOP THE NEO-NAZI BNP FILTH...

If you would kindly spare a few minutes to entertain my point of view, I would like to express some thoughts to you. Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP, is a coward. He is not a man. A real man of faith and devotion to his people would be at peace within himself and accepting of all other men who have faith and devotion for their people, regardless of differing beliefs. The stance of being pro white, anti-immigration or pro Britain is really a smokescreen. It covers up his lack of manhood. If he were a real man, then the more extremely polarised he finds his views compared to another man, the more in accord he would be with his own views and accepting of other views at the same time. This would be the basis upon which he could learn to reinforce his values in the wider community and to see their rightful place within the whole spectrum and continuum of human history and thought. In essence, a man needs to reconcile his faith and belief to the world and seek to live in harmony with other men as a means to justify himself, as a way to say "my views are right because they stood against the test of the outside world." Nick Griffin should respect the value that every man should be free to think for himself, and free in his body and in the determination of his own will. If Nick Griffin truly believed in liberty, democracy and justice for white people, he would embrace the presence of black people as a reference point of the important distinctions and similarities that exist between black culture and white culture, accounting for the strengths and weaknesses (and the potential to learn) on both sides. He would be a scholarly man, and not merely a thug parading about in a suit, shouting loudly to the world that he is not what others try to make him out to be. He would show some regard and respect for foreign people, since we can all learn from looking at another person at the very least for what makes us distinct and special in relation to them. A rainbow doesn't work if there is only one colour. A blank canvas is no work of art. It requires a full range of colours to be drawn upon it, if for no reason other than to pick out your favourite tones, textures, images and colours from the whole work. All human beings are equal as human beings even if they are not equal in all things. As a people we are bound to learn and to teach one another. Is there nothing a black man can teach a white man and vice versa? The world would be a pretty boring place if it were all white or all black rather than a mixture of the two. Can you imagine a world without Shakespeare, Einstein, James Joyce, Goethe, Schopenhauer or Mozart on the one hand, or a world without Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King or James Brown on the other? It would be a poorer world on both accounts, would you not agree?

I have my own views about race and ethnicity. I also understand that those views have changed over time, and may change yet again as I grow as a human being. That is why I don't have to beat other people over the head with my beliefs. Anyone is entitled to the same right to grow and change as I have and continue to do, whatever his or her experiences may be. I don't need to tell anyone what my views are either. They are my private concern. We are all works in progress. But Nick Griffin wants the world to listen to him as if his views are absolutely correct, he wants the world to change into what he envisions to be a better place, to think like he does, as if he is completely enlightened and all knowing with no more need to grow in wisdom or in his feelings. Can you imagine that the culmination of all wisdom over the ages is embodied in Nick Griffin? How can that be when his vision entails total exclusion of a type of human being based on the colour of their skin or their racial or cultural background, or their immigration status? In the meanwhile, he surrounds himself with thugs and lackeys who are no doubt less intelligent than he is. In my experience, I have endeavoured to be in the company of men who are equal or more greatly accomplished than myself in certain things, so that I might acquire knowledge through the benefit of their wisdom and experience. Who are the advisors to Nick Griffin? Who are the publicly acknowledged and appreciated men of letters to whom he defers for wisdom? Or is he just above learning anything? A real man would not surround himself with lesser men to elevate himself. It would be interesting to see Nick Griffin hold his own in a spirited debate, with scholars, academics, clerics and interested members of the general public. Instead, he is holding backdoor meetings and being escorted by heavyweight bodyguards at all times, holing himself up in all-white communities, with party members who encode their names in e-mail transmissions and gather clandestinely outside tube stations to discuss their political views and devise their campaign strategies.

This is a bizarre, nonsensical, unethical, immoral, non-intellectual and inhuman set of affairs to be conducted within a democracy. All that aside, here is what I feel to be the truth about Nick Griffin. In the end, Nick Griffin is seen by me to be a racist against white people. He is a self-hating white man who looks into the faces of other white men and hates them because they don't think like he does. Other whites serve as a mirror of his distorted viewpoints, which are ultimately unrealised upon reflection. Yet he needs white people to vote for him, give him money and think like him. No doubt, he would cast aside any white person who is strongly against his views or whose lifestyle doesn't reflect his values, as a traitor, as if other white people don't have the intellectual capacity to think for themselves and arrive at their own unique conclusions (not conclusions merely filtered through experience of being White British, but conclusions drawn from humane experience that has not meant embracing hatred and exclusion in order to seemingly feel whole). Nick Griffin will rub shoulders with other white people, though, knowing in the back of his mind (no doubt rife with paranoia and delusion) that they are a potential enemy should they ever grow, change or simply already are different in the way that they think from him. What a burden!!! The truth is that black and foreign people aren't his problem...other white people who don't think like him are his problem. If they all thought like he did then there would be no problem as he sees it because people of colour would simply be removed by force. But all white people don't think like him. They never will all think like him. But he still must pander to them to amass power for him if he is to maintain his minor significance on the world scene. Self-empowerment and self-esteem does not have to mean containment, control, manipulation, transformation and destruction of others, unless you are Nick Griffin. But there is a universe of human concerns that transcends racial barriers and speaks to all people for the souls they have within themselves. Despite this, Nick Griffin wants to tell you that the trouble at the heart of Britain is a man, woman or child of another colour. How sad! I wonder what his views are on Ian Huntley or Steve Wright or Myra Hindley or the IRA! How does he switch his mind off from the troubles of white folk who exemplify evil and pain in all manner of deviancy from paedophilia to drug abuse, prostitution, child abuse, alcoholism, yobbery and rape? Who will his scapegoat be, in his ideal world, when he has to deal with the problems and issues that lie within the white majority culture of Britain that eats away at itself every day in towns, rural villages, and city centres throughout the country, and there is no black person left to point a finger at?

Wake up, everyone!!! You are in the grip of a monstrous evil. You may imagine that you are asleep and dreaming peacefully in the right, but you are actually in a waking nightmare if you cater to the point of view that the BNP represents on human relations. The great Albert Einstein, physicist, Jew, and holocaust escapee, said that genius is the ability to hold two contradictory thoughts in your mind at once. I present a corollary as a question - What do you call someone who can hold two contradictory personalities in his mind at once? ... The answer is the Devil!!! We should all think about that when we clutch our little white and black children to our breast with love and hope for their future, if we have the slightest sting of racial hatred also burning within that same breast and hiding like a cancerous tumour waiting to eventually spread to our children’s' minds. I will never hate another man because of the colour he is even if he hates me for mine. I was not born that way and will not be shaped that way. I wish enlightenment to you, and the power to think for yourself.... Peace be unto you!!!!

If you are reading this, and if you originate from Ireland, or China, or are of the Sikh faith, do not fall into the trap of believing that the neo-Nazi BNP now love and accept you as British citizens.

The BNP not just colluded with Loyalist death squads. They were blamed for a spate of lethal arsen attacks on the Northern Irish Chinese community, by the police, and community leaders, as they made efforts to get votes in the Loyalist parts of Belfast where the UVF flourished.

On the eve of the Bradford riots, for Nick Griffin approached Sikh nationalists, trying to forment hatred against Muslims.

If Nick Griffin's supposedly reconstituted BNP took power by coup, as BNP members said, they hoped would happen, aided by world war, environmental damage, or large-scale terrorism, as Griffin said to the reporter, undercover for the story in the Guardian (Griffin is selfishly hoping large numbers of British people will die, just to create the political instability for a Hitler-like takeover), all non white people would be stripped of their British citizenship, persecuted, then, ultimately, killed, i'e., mass murder.

Griffin also admitted that the revolution would link up far right leaders from across the globe. Hitler linked up with Franco and LePen. Griffin would join forces with LePen, Fini, and Flemish fascists, to name a few, to enact the neo-fascist revolution. This sounds just like Adolf Hitler's nazis. No question mark of why BNP supporters still make Hitler salutes.

You're meant to be acting in the interests of "little Britain", not Don Black, Le Pen, and the Ku Kluk f***ing Klan, you traitor!!!

So why is Hitler acting soft, all of a sudden, towards certain token Uncle Toms inspecific minority communities, while he is planning for an all-white agenda?

Mussolini pretended not to be anti-Semitic when he gained power. He even appealed to Jewish voters, only to betray them later through the most bloodiest and vile of race crimes ever, the Holocaust.

So, remember, folks, if you think Griffin's gone soft, just remember Mussolini.

They can deny it until they are blue in the face, but it's absolutely true - the BNP are, always have been, and always will be, genocidal racists. Just because they borrow a tin of public relations gloss from Tony Blair, doesn't mean they are any less liars.

Only, with their plans for a Europe-wide Nazi Fatherland, they are a hundred trillion times worse than Tony Blair. To all the Nazi Trolls that say everybody should forget Griffin, and just concentrate on Tony Blair, don't fall victim to complaceny. Campaign against both Blair, and The New Mussolini.

NEVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE GUTTER RATS, THE HELL-BOUND BRITISH NAZI PARTY!!!

They would murder their own grannies, if it meant getting to power.

"Hitler linked up with Franco and LePen."

How old do you think Le Pen is, you drunken fool?

Yes can someone remove the racist comments on this post please.

Normal people are fed up with racism of all kinds not double standards racism which prevails by some of the twisted dead beats on this site.

If you are against racism you are against all kinds of racism. Otherwise you are a selective racist.

Thanks Mark Collett (A.K.A. Matt), for picking up on the deliberate mistake left by the good old Prof, who deliberately called Nick Griffin "Hitler" (if there's a difference). Both are/were racist and homophobic yet effeminate, hypocrites, who take out their personal problems with others.

Talking of cowardly losers, it's not like a loser like you, who can't ever get a girlfriend, not to scour the anti-fascist threads, looking for typos.

It proves you are still "alive and kicking".

Npot suprising you noticed the mention of your original Fuhrer. You know all about dear old Adolf Hitler. All alone at night, you pleasure yourself to pictures of him, scribbled on the cover of Mein Kamph, when you're not trolling on Indymedia like a complete and utter prick.

If you say normal people are sick and tired of racism, you're right. Yes, we were appalled Matt (Mark) about your racist comments about black people. This obviously means you hate yourself... the common mental illness of hardcore racists. Everyone's seen the C4 documentary where you praise Adolf S(hitler) as being the best thing since sliced bread.

One day you will get jailed, Marky, babes. Just because you escaped justice once, won't mean you'll ALWAYS escape justice.

The BNP will NEVER take control of Britain. Accept it, you troll!!!

I won't feed the troll, don't worry. Just want to mention, Collett/Matt, that if red hair is indeed a racial feature (it's new to me), it must be Celtic. i.e., of the Celts. The BNP traditionallly hate the Irish, and colluded with the Ulster Loyalist death squads, to help wipe out Irish Catholic people.

It's a sobering thought.

Read these; -

 http://www.phoblacht.net/jc16123g.html
 http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=38
 http://www.geocities.com/irishafa/cluan.html

And the BNP also hate Scottish Celts. In 2003, Rangers-supporting BNP hooligans attacked innocent celtic fans.

 http://www.keep-the-faith.net/columnists/columnists15.htm

The White Nationalist Party, by the way, is a cover for the BNP in belfast.

And, looking at Google, I see yet more evidence that the BNP did arrange racist attacks against Northern Ireland's Chinese community. Spot on, Prof!!

 http://www.blink.org.uk/print.asp?key=2841

"The British National party and other far-right groups may be behind a spate of vicious racist attacks in loyalist areas of Northern Ireland, it emerged yesterday.
The most recent came over the weekend when a family originally from Uganda and a group of Chinese people - including two heavily pregnant women - were driven from their homes in the deprived Village area of South Belfast.

One of the women is due to give birth on Christmas Day and has been taken into hospital for observation.

Inspector Keith Gilchrist of the Police Service Northern Ireland said: "It is absolutely horrific that people should be put out of their homes at any time but particularly at this time of year. We are having to seek temporary accommodation with the assistance of the social services."

A gang attacked at least three houses, smashing windows with bricks. In one house a man was battered in the face with a brick.

The African man who did not wish to be named said: "I think the best thing that the politicians can do is just to educate the people that are thought to be doing all this.

"If only they could educate them that we are just part of the community, that we are as normal as them, we breathe the same air, we have the same blood, we are simply the same as they are."

Police are treating the attacks as racially motivated and it is thought that racist groups based in England may be organising them. The BNP recently announced it would be fielding candidates in the next round of council elections in the province.

Councillor Bob Stokoe, a former Lord Mayor of Belfast who lives in the Village area, said he thought that individuals from groups such as the BNP or Combat 18 may be involved. He believed that outsiders were organising the attacks and that mainstream loyalist paramilitary groups were not directly responsible.

Davy Carlin of the Anti-Racism Network said: "They appear to be the work of individual loyalist far-right sympathisers getting active support from far-right organisations".

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I wander if Mark Collett visited Kilkeel to organise these racist attacks against Chinese people?

If you can pretend the holocaust didn't happen, it's hard to believe you're capable of telling the truth.

I don’t know if its worthwhile pointing out but white people don’t have a monopoly on being racist (look at the situation in Malaysia), and well, there’s probably a difference to be drawn between being racist and being xenophobia. I can imagine that the BNP will gain support from some non-traditional areas of society (‘non-white’ communities wishing immigration controls –maybe specifically having feelings about the ‘white’ eastern Europeans for example). I suppose one possibility is that we will see the rise of conflict between ‘ethnic’ minorities in local elections, perhaps between British African communities and British Asian communities but as these aren’t represented at the national stage and so I don’t find it surprising these individuals would turn to the BNP. By accepting ‘non-whites’ as members it seems to be accepting them as British. While people here may well understand that isn’t the case, the people themselves may be fooled.
pity them...

According to the BNP's constitution, all members must be of the white "aryan" race, although anybody is free to vote for them. They do exploit inter-community tensions, but, by not allowing "non-aryans" to be members, they cannot be described as welcoming.

The BNP also insultingly describe children of mixed-race marriages as "unfortunate", as if they wish they hadn't been born.

There is no getting away from the fact they are white supremacists, and their comments in the article in the Guardian about taking over in a coup, if a disaster happened, and linking up with other European Nazi groups is sinister to the core, and does nothing to support their claims of being a wholly democratic party. In the article, Griffin admits they cannot ever win control of Britain by the ballot box.

Only Nazis talk about the "Aryan race", whatever that is.

Thus the BNP are nazis.

Hay Auntie,

I’m not sure –as I haven’t read it –I just searched the pdf (2004 BNP consitition), but I think it refers to white –not Aryan. After the yada yada 2.1. it also says “and those we regard as closely related and ethically assimilated or assimilated aboriginal members of the European race also resident in Britain.” The Daily mail refers to this as ‘British or closely kindred native European stock’, which I think indicates how ‘spin’ can make it more palatable. Now the question becomes what Clarke has been told to make her think that the BNP would accept her partner and her child as ‘British’. Seems similar to how the British Independent Parity gained supporters in Devon.

mx
ps I should make it clear I'm not doubting what the BNP are, but the rhetoric is important.

Hiah, Folks,

Just thought I'd make some important points, folks......... First and foremost, administrators, I must hearby state I am not "feeding the nazi trolls".

As a troll fitting the description of Nick Cass pointed out, earlier (semi-correctly), Prejudice against red hair, was indeed, once a defining feature of racial prejudice, back in the so-called virtually all-white days of the middle ages, and onwards, until Victorian times, including the time of the Potato Famine.

What the nazi trolls don't realise, is that it was the state, the English establishment, and the monarchy, that maintained anti-Celtic feelings through the most visible ethnic celtic feature - red hair. All the great things about England which the ultra-patriotic British Nazi Party would never in a trillion years criticise.

For all his rebellious traits, Shakespeare brown-nosed royalty, and suported racism and prejudice, such as in the anti-semitism of the Merchant of venice (the most performed show in Nazi Germany, unsurprisingly), and he also wrote about people having red hair, as devillish, which was anti-Scottish/Irish.

As a vector of the state, the beloved faith of this Protestant Christian (and supposedly "love thy neighbour") country loated the Pagan ancestry of the Celts. Thus, during the celebrated witch hunts (such as the witch hunts of Pendle (Pendle near BURNLEY, hardly a tolerant, forward thinking place in these modern times, either), anyone looking Celtic, thus, with red hair, was seen as being anti-Christian, and tortured, and burnt at the stake, just as redneck American is presently persecuting followers of the Muslim faith, in an equally Puritanical manner. (Puritans equals Pilgrim Fathers, whose hardline, or what we would now call, "fundamentalist").

The fat was (supposedly) extracted from red haired people assumed to be witches, in a Nazi Holocaust-like fashion).

Perhaps Matt (Nick Cass), should think twice about being the mouthpiece for a Monarchist lineage that, in times gone by, might have murdered his relatives, burnt them at the stake for witchcraft, and abused their human bodies in the most sickest, inhumane manner.

Just getting back to the England, Scotland, and Ireland, (for the time being) yes, to summerise, having "wild, flaming red hair" was indeed a means of discriminating against non-Englanders, in the supposedly "halycon" days of (literally) Little England, an ethnically monotone era in history, that the BNP would have us return to. After ethnically cleansing Jews in the Middle Ages, the "wonderful, fair-minded English Monarchy turned on the only other ethnic group they could find, present, in any numbers, their Northern and Western cousins, turning as always, stereotypes into prejudice, and persecuting people with red hair.

Through the ages, hatred of Celtic red hair, has been watered down, and through the migration of people south and eastwards throughout Europe, is no-longer considered a racial prejudice, but merely, an unfair quirk, exploited by schoolyard bullies and substandard comedians (Hale and Pace, for instance), who were hardly at the top of their profession.

Comments making fun of people for being fat, having red (or blonde) hair, are undesirable to say the least, and society as a whole, is responsible for ensuring the appearance of individuals, is protected from hatred and bullying. Thankfully, most schools are now committed to effective anti-bullying policies. Bullying people with red hair, is no longer racist, however much trolls like Nick Cass can't see it.

If, to broaden their appeal at the ballot box, Irish ex-pat communities, and sport associations in Northern England, are being infiltrated by BNP organisers, in a revisionist, "we now love the Paddies" manner (Paddy being used for centuries as a term of racial abuse against the Irish), the BNP will keep their distance from actual Itish history.

High ranking BNP officials (even millionaire backer of Irish heritage Cromie), never dare criticise the English monarchy for their role in the genocide of the Irish Potato Famine. Giving drunken thug Sid Williamson the boot, does little to prove the BNP are no-longer ideological slaves to the British Empire, and the BNP's perennial lack of success in not just Northern Ireland, but Scotland, goes to show that most people view the British National Party, a party that worships England's colonial history.

I half expect an ugly troll or two, to appear further on in this thread, "pretending" to show sympathy for the victims of the Irish Potato Famine. What most BNP members think about Irish Catholics, is another matter. (thus the early comparison with pre-war Italian fascism).

Crocodile tears might attract the odd, confused, brainwashed "Uncle Tom" vote, but they hardly signify a tidal wave of compassion, from, what always has been and is, a hardline national-socialist (nazi) party.

Just one to add about the use of the word "aryan" to define the white race - Stormponce and VNN, run by Ku Klox Klanner Don Black, are brimming with overuse of such authentic Nazi terminology. Despite their constant denials, nearly all BNP members use these extremist chat sites to communicate with worldwide white supremacists.

Another BNP/National Front/BPP/Combat 18 obcession, in common with nazis and white supremacists worldwide is their fixation with Viking symbolism, which not even their most skillfullest, most craftiest spindoctors, can brush under the carpet.

How the hell BNP members posting on Stormponce or VNN can expect to win votes, by calling themselves Thor or Bloodaxe, is beyond me.

The only difference between old-Nazi and nu-Neo-Nazi, is indeed spin. Coupled with pint after pint of bravado (Nick Cass), and self-delusion.

So, remember, if you're in an area with a significant Irish community, remind them where the majority of the BNP stand on the Irish Potato Famine, regardless of the odd member of token Irish heritage. Perhaps Nick Griffin likes to kid himself that it didn't happen, folks. He is after all a Holocaust denier.

You cannot be a British and Irish nationalist at the same time.

Take care,

Read between the lines...

THE PROFESSOR!!!

This story has been bubbling away for a while but this has made me think about what is really going on here. I don't vote for the BNP , you probably don't either and some, or more like all, of their ideas are on just the wrong side of completely bonkers, but they're politicians after all so that's no surprise, and politicians unlikely to get into government and do anything reckless like invade other countries or take way all our civil rights or erm ok maybe I'm not helping the argument here. A group of people called Unite Against Faschism, which sounds like a faschist slogan if ever I heard one, is planning to hold a rally outside a ballet performance in London to protest about the membership of the BNP of Simone Clarke, one of the dancers. Perhaps they could explain what is un-faschist about blockading an arts venue to force the sacking of a dancer because of the political party she supports. It is admirable though that their equal opportunites policy means it's possible to rise to the very top of this organisation despite suffering the very real handicap of posessing no discernible sense of irony. The BNP is a legal party with 50 local councillors across the country, compared to Unite Against Faschism's none. They probably don't like my views either so are they going to stop me singing in the bath or going to work?

As an occasional concertgoer I've often wondered how the classic FM demographic that comprises the bulk of classical music audiences would cope if living next door to some of the very respectable composers they rustle their sweet wrappers to, with their late nights, noisy practising, chaotic personal lives, radical politics, exotic substance consumption and disreputable associates. Perhaps when we go to a concert or exhibition we wish not so much to look into someone else's thoughts as to look into a mirror which says you are the fairest of them all because you go to the ballet. I suppose we like to think our ballet dancers have the same thoughts on all matters as the audience; wealthy, metropolitan, liberal. Champagne must be served cold, the arts must be served left wing. It's no different, I suppose, to not wanting to hear the dancers' footsteps on the stage, it spoils the illusion.

I'm going to shut up now lest I get labelled an extreme rightwing fruitcake instead of just a regular fruitcake but you have to wonder what artist, performer, or writer will be deemed ideologically unsound next and who else will feature in Unite Against Faschism's own degenerate art exhibition.

Lol –I wiked United against fascism and found that Ken Livingstone is the chairman. I find it pretty questionable whether the BNP are a political party and I do wonder how the UK can allow a political party to restrict its membership to a certain ethnicity. Maybe I’ll start up a party called ‘Allāhu Akbar’ and restrict its members to one minority and see how far it gets.

See, I feel that the more people know and talk about the BNP the worse it is for them. I feel sorry for Clarke – she was misled or mad but that’s no reason for her personally (as a posed to a BNP rally) being picketed. I would have to agree with you, withheld.