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Responses to the BNP victory. Hypocritical?

Dylan James | 11.11.2006 21:18 | Anti-racism

What are the true implications of the BNP's recent legal victory.

I would like to first point out my ignorance of much of the details and context regarding the recent trial of Nick Griffin head of the BNP and a party activist. I will refrain from talking about the case in much detail other than to point out a number of interesting themes with particular relevance to the struggle for an equal and fair society.

I see the various passionate and aggressive anti-fascist and anti-racist comments here and elsewhere and am aware they come from a real place within most people. When I become aware of agents using underhand tactics to incite racism; building up a contingent body of people who believe that within this country their needs come above the needs of others, I’m disgusted. When I hear of those same agents covertly using violence and physical aggression, I too feel my fist clench and violent thoughts pass through my mind.

I feel we must remember, though, that anger is an easy and destructive emotion. I believe we can see the effects of angry and unsympathetic thoughts at the heart of so many of the terrible conflicts throughout the world. So to attempt to understand the meaning and significance of the trail of BNP leader and activist, I feel we must attempt to understand what members of the BNP feel.

We see that the rhetoric of the victory resembled much of the rhetoric on websites such as these. Calls to battle the oppressive forces of government and passionate, deeply felt cries of freedom. Are we to dismiss these people as racist scum that deserve to burn in hell or men and women with a deeply misunderstood vision of how to make society better? I truly believe these people would make tuff, yet potential, converts to a true understanding of the destructive workings of capitalist society.

What is the response of the political activist, holding close to their heart the, in my opinion, best picture of the future? Is it to call the government to try harder to oppress the racist voices calling people to join them? Is it to take upon themselves the role of oppressor and coercer and hound these people into oblivion with aggression and violence? Are these not hypocritical responses to the situation?

I believe in freedom of speech. In a true atmosphere of freedom of speech where all people can express themselves totally many people would express things that would disgust and upset me and others. Is that necessarily a price too expensive for true freedom of speech? I agree there must be balance. I just believe the balance should be much more towards freedom. Is the call for freedom of speech from a person who says “Islam in England should be eradicated” different from a similar call from someone who says “government in England and the world should be eradicated”? Are these not true strains of thought present in society? Do we not have the ability to manage these debates within ourselves without violence? If that is true then my ideal of a society without hierarchy is unobtainable.

The real victors of the scenario are, of course, the ruling class. At best, individually, they speak with shared disgust at the result of the recent BNP trail. Essentially the significance of the case and the general mood it has been received has added an extra element to their argument that we must be governed and governed with increasing centralised power. “You must be protected by the black and white fanatics who lurk everywhere.” is, in my opinion, the resounding message underneath the words of the media and government.

Dylan James

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well put

11.11.2006 21:24

devide and rule

agree


who decides the balance

12.11.2006 22:40

While I agree to a large degree with you sentiments, the problem of the phrase 'on balance' is something to be scared of. In the current system, who decideds what is 'on balance' the difference between hate speeh and free speech is the courts. As someone involved in a lot of litigation this is not a group of conservative old men (yes, they are 90% stereotype in my experience) we should not be putting much faith in them to uphold rights on the matter.

The European Convention on Human Right is so full of sub-clauses as to be worthless for the most part. Trusting in the courts to decide on balance is always going to restrict and marginalise our freedom of expression, how ever distastefully it is abused by the right-winers. We should be careful that we do not end up shooting ourselves in the feet.

unnecessary


Well put Dylan

14.11.2006 10:48

Few people seem to note that the bliar government wish to invent or amend legislation to stop free thought and speech and this is aimed at a political party deemed to be racist, yet the same two faced government are guilty of race hatred themselves with the constant tirade of anti muslim and anti Iran propaganda.

A government that lies, lies, lies and then lies some more to scare the population. Birds falling from the sky with bird flu - if the falling bird don't kill you, then its flu will!
Baby bottles - the new way to land aeroplanes in mid flight!
... and so on and on and on ad nauseum!

D. Cheshire


you're all missing the point

14.11.2006 15:05

The decision in Nick Griffin's trial was not made by "conservative old men", it was made by a jury of ordinary people who listened to the facts presented to them, and presumably used their commonsense in arriving at a verdict.
It's clear from all the media reports that N. G. was able to present himself as "only" inciting religious hatred. This is not against British law. He was able to subvert the existing law by making use of the fact that the legislation that deals with inciting racial hatred does not define Muslims as a racial group. And in fact, they are not a distinct racial group, Muslims are from a variety of racial and national origins.
The fact that N.G. was able to get away with viciously inciting hatred against anybody is a legal problem. If you saw the brief TV clip on the news of the private meeting at which he was giving a Nuremburg-style rant against Muslims, you'll understand this: if he had substituted for "Muslim" the word "Paki", "Jew", "Nigger", or any other racial epithet, he would have been surely convicted. He wouldn't have had a defence. The trouble is, you can't easily plug this particular legal loophole by extending the law to cover inciting religious hatred, as it would have to cover all religions, not just Islam. That could easily play into the hands of any group of people who have intolerant attitudes rooted in the religion they follow (any religion, including Christianity), and who might use the new law to silence people (like women, or gay rights activists) who are seeking to assert their own rights and dignity within their religious community.
It would undermine the right to freedom of speech, too, but this is a very qualified right and I see it as a lesser problem.
The second problem is a social one: since at least the start of the century the British tabloid press in particular have constantly promoted a nasty, stereotypical view of Muslims as being alien, strange, anti-British, abusers of the asylum system and potential "terrorists". It has become the new respectable form of racism. This has given the likes of N.G. a new opportunity to gain political credibility by exploiting what's become a respectable form of prejudice.
What we do to change this, I do not know. The kind of people to whom the British National Party tries to appeal might well find anti-capitalist left-wing politics just as appealing, if this was presented to them. But in my experience, turning people on to socialism does not by itself eliminate all their prejudices.

carol laidlaw
mail e-mail: toxteth86@yahoo.co.uk


Ignorance

14.11.2006 21:02

'I would like to first point out my ignorance of much of the details and context regarding the recent trial of Nick Griffin head of the BNP and a party activist.'

If you are ignorant about something, don't comment about it.

simon


Who is the ignoramus?

17.11.2006 15:53

Simon, Mr James clearly stated that he would not be commenting on the trial itself and instead would discuss wider themes of racism and society. He has obviously thought deeply about the issues and in my opinion his argument is well judged. It seems therefore that you are the real ignoramus. If you've nothing useful or thoughtful to say why bother posting a comment at all?

Chris Waits


ASBO the BNP

18.11.2006 20:11

Perhaps it is time to prosecute the BNP leadership under the perfectly adequate Anti Social Behaviour Legislation. Since that legislation is designed to persecute people for being young, unemployed or having nowhere to enjoy themselves without incurring the wrath of tiny minded fascists. The legislation does have perfectly reasonable uses and one of thems should be to ABSO Griffin. The BNP has enough members with borderline social skills and many are positively antisocial. By ensuring Griffin is ASBO'ed it proves that this is good legislation, it avoids future legislation and it allows the Left to put him into the place he belongs. This would avoid needing to create legislation that defines Islam as a Race (thereby providing the Right with a Legalistic framework for thinking about discrimination and thuggery). It is perfectly obvious to anybody looking at many of the BNP that they have dubious objectives at potentially violent odds with society. There is constant talk of taking up the fight and taking the battle to the Left. This is not socially acceptable. Let them have their free speech but let them know they are responsible for their platform.

Former BNP Sympathiser


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