BNP Poll 26.2% in Rotherham by election

Labour vote was up, that's more interesting.

By the way, I'm surprised you're not posting more slurs against Tony White while you're on her Mr Collet.

What's that, some kind of dance or something?

The vote for Labour went up cos there was no Liberal Democrat standing. I'd imagine the reasoning was that they would prefer Labour to get the seat than risk a split vote letting in the BNP.

So in other words there is a real worry about the BNP getting a foothold.

There is a small but significant number of people out there who do not feel represented at the moment in politics and they will keep voting for the BNP. There is also a larger number of people who are comfortable but just plain xenophobic and they will boost the vote of groups like the BNP, tho they will not admit voting for them so much. To tackle the former needs a movement that effectively represents the concerns of those on the bottom of the heap. To address the latter needs a concerted effort to shift mainstream social views that is miles away from the focus of many groups who, having found their ideology and beliefs, alienate themselves by being 'holier than thou' and not engaging with those who are still mired in a standard view of the world.

Another worrying result and the dead left swp etc are left speechless by the rise of the fash.

Even more worrying is the fact that the BNP would probably have won if it wasnt for the Independent candidate. The article in the Observer wont help matters either.


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1928602,00.html


Nearly 50% of racial murders in the UK are on white people from a 9% ethnic minority population. These figures will give the BNP an air of respectability as the only party which stands up for whites.

This is not good news and more needs to be done to help race relations.

Thanks for the Guardian newspaper article, it was informative, but in the manner the poster was trying to prove.

As the usual motley gang of neo-Nazi trolls surfing the internet WON'T be quick to point out, Peter Fahy, the Chief Constable of Cheshire, who raised the issue of white victims going ignored, ALSO warned not to read too much into the figures. He just wanted to point out that the victims of race crime are varied, and we must pay due attention to all the victims. He did not say racism was greater against the majority than the minority.

If you had bothered to read your own article "Richard???", you would have read the following lines: -

"Fahy warned of caution in over-interpreting the figures. He said that the 24 white victims also included those who were Jewish, 'dark-skinned' Europeans or gypsies. In addition, seven of those were killed by white attackers, four by black, six by Asian, with seven whose racial background was not identified.

Of those not identified, the police suggest, they might have been of Scottish, Welsh, or Irish origin, which would mean both the attackers and victims have white skin, and may therefore include sectarian killings between protestants and catholics, and inter-nation rivalry. Some of these hate murders might have been homophobic killings, also, as homophobia exists in all communities, and seems to be at its most strongest in tough, working class communities, thanks to tabloid newspapers, and hardline religion.

The BNP loathes gay people and lesbians.

What we can learn from this, is that all racial attacks are evil, as is all racism. Much anti-black and anti-Asian racism is getting more sophisticated, and less crude and violent, especially with Tony Blair's government chipping in, and even English universities admiting they are spying on, and hence, discriminating against people who are Muslim. If you are a white racist, with so much establishment racism against minorities, all you need do, is read the Sun, or write a letter to a newspaper, to increase the tension. If you remember, after the Stephen Lawrence case, "institutionalised racism" was mentioned.

The War On Terror is institutionalised racism at its peak. Every story against Muslims or Islam, increases the tide of hate against people of that religion, in an acidental (or maybe) organised manner. Eastern Europeans are the current target of immigration measures, because they contain Roma people (or Gypsies), victims of the Nazi Holocaust, and hated these days by neo-Nazi Groups and Daily Mail readers alike, just for being different.

The talk by the racist tabloid press of "limiting immigration", however, a cryptic message of support to long-dead racist dinosaurs like Enoch Powell, who are rotting in hades as we speak. Those supposedly rational people who supposedly want discussions on immigration, want Asian people to be told officially that they don't belong in Briatin. This civilised racism (civilsed in name only) is anti-Asian and anti-black as much as anti-Eastern European, and one must remember, following the wars on Afganistan and Iraq, that instituionalised racism in Nazi Germany reached such a peak that ordinary German racists needn't bother persecuting Jewish, Roma, and non-white people themselves. The Nazi government, the SS, the Gestapo, and the corrupt, racist police force did it for them, on their behalf.

Racism exists in all forms, but the more instutionalised it becomes, and that includes people voting BNP, the more like Nazi Germany we will become. If you believe the Goebells-like racist propaganda you read in the Mail, Express, and the Sun, and you are thinking of voting BNP, please, oh, please don't forget the victims of the Holocaust.

Racism, hatred, and genocide, continues to happen around the world. You are either for humanity or against it.

If you are wandering what the protests against the BNP are about, remember the following facts about the BNP: -

ONE) Several key members have bomb-making or exposives convictions, and many have served prison terms for a variety of offenses, including the distribution of racist pamphlets, wife-beating, benefit fraud, and gangland violence.

TWO> Mark Collett was interviewed on Channel Four saying how much he adored the legacy of Adolf Hitler.

THREE> Nick Griffin tells people that the Holocaust didn't happen. He is what is known as a Holocaust revisionist.

FOUR) They pretend to care about ordinary people but they don't. They don't even believe in their own issues such as "family values" as the recent newspaper reports of promiscious orgies prove.

And lastly but not leastly, if you're trolling in the area, Mr "internet-savvy computer nerd, Collett"......

FIVE) They are, thank god, a wasted vote... they will never, ever win seats at Westminister, the seat of all power.

SIX) There presence in the political system, does increase alienation amongst non-Christian, non-white people and aslyum seekers, and their evil presence must be opposed by anybody with a consciece.

PLEASE, OH, PLEASE, READ BETWEEN THE LINES....

You would do well to remember, these people are not "Nationalists" but Fascists.

Accepting money from a foreign power gives that power a say in your policies. This was always the accusation against the Left with the scream of "Moscow Gold". While the overseas funding of Fascist extremism is not really remarked upon. Fascist Extremism is the charge the BNP can never escape. They are not Nationalists - how can nationalists
justify selling themselves to a Foreign Power? They are Fascists - seeking to extend the
thuggery of oppression because they think they will get petted by their masters. It is no suprise that they worship Hitler - for he is the Foreign Master they crave. How is that
Nationalism? It is the most craven Fascism and they revel in it. Did they really cut links with their lucrative donors?

 http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=34
 http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=166
 http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=177

firstly Tinpot. You know full well i am not BNP or fash and you know who I am so, you are advised very strongly to get your facts right in the future

the responses are syptomatic of the problem- a straight up denial that that a 28% fash vote from a standing start isnt a good vote. no point in even debating woth you.....

The world is in the grip of a ‘financial crisis’ that is tentatively being compared to the Great Depression. The cause of this crisis has been caused by financial institutions based on an ideology that Prof. Jospeh Stiglitz[1] has likened to, if not out-right called, a religion. Given that the effects of such a crisis are widespread and commonly felt, this ideology must pervade all sectors of human affairs.

In particular, what are the implications for a community like Rotherham? Long ‘diverse’ and along with neighbouring Sheffield, is home to citizens representing hundreds of other communities from around the world…

Rotherham has 2 British National Party(BNP) councilors[2] and I know people who are supportive of and affiliated with the BNP. Perhaps it is the good work of the pristine propaganda system that I am opposed to this party, as I have certainly never read or heard or seen any party literature. But the idea of a party basing itself – with so much conviction - on such a flimsy a platform as “British” seems counter-productive, at best… some have called them Nazis…[3]

Perhaps another way of taking the BNP is that they are, perhaps inflammatory; but we should also notice how the same accusation has to be leveled at media sources, broadly speaking.

Today is the 11th March 2009… Last night’s news (and today’s papers), covered the protests at the home coming of troops in Luton. There has been outrage in parliament... As I watched the scenes of whites versus brown, cloaked up as Muslims versus Patriot, it should’ve been asked, ‘where were the non-Muslim protesters?’ A lot has been said about Muslims, but I have yet to hear of them refusing solidarity and support from allied protesters…

…late January and early February saw well-covered worker strikes, protesting against foreign workers… even my old man says it sometimes ‘scary’ to walk down Rotherham high street, because you probably won’t hear any English….

What does it mean? And what about Northern Ireland? It seems that while we were scoffing ‘all the gold we could eat’ we could get on well enough, but is it the case that now we are seeing the rise of fear and resentment because of perceived impending scarcity? Are we so uninspired and reactionary as to blame someone who lives just like us for the way an ideology has run us into the ground?

…perhaps there has always been this type of coverage… racist coverage… It is hard to tell if I am exaggerating…

I wonder what Nazi Germany felt like before it’s infamous demise…it can’t have been horrible for Germans… as many Germans died for Hitler’s Germany as British died for Churchill’s England… and we all know about Nazi propaganda; how it loved to give the Germans baddies… Communists, Homosexuals, Cripples and of course Jews… them Nazi bastards…

And so now, apparently, we have a baddie… but they are the baddie not because they are a different race. Not because they are a different species. Not even because they have a different religion, per se… no; nothing as vulgar and base as that… no. They are baddies because their ideology tells them to be fanatical haters of anything not of their set, and are thus blood-thirsty half-maniacs out to bring about the day of Judgement… ‘Extremists and Radicals’…

...quite plainly nothing as vulgar as old, reactionary prejudice…

If there was no non-Muslims anti-war protester in Luton (best I could find was “…the mainly Muslim protesters…”[4]), it is because we weren’t invited… See, for a start, not all Muslims think alike, but those who do oppose the violence are joined by millions of non-Muslims in their convictions…

…And we should’ve been there, taking the opportunity, not to disparage people returning from trauma - as would be portrayed, but to draw attention to the crucially important fact of the deep heterogeny and resistance within our society and give it the relevance it needs…

[1]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiglitz see also  http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?hl=en&q=stiglitz&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#hl=en&q=stiglitz&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv&dur=3
[2]  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/elections/local_council/08/html/cf.stm
[3]  http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=15158
[4]  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5884941.ece