***Urgent meeting to be called and organised within the representative individual voices and organisations within the disabled people's, survivors, neurodiversity, independent and inclusive living movements.
As many of you may be well informed by now, that Adrian Whyatt and I are in the early process of trying to set-up and organise a 'working-group' within the disabled people's, survivors, neurodiversity, independent and inclusive
living movement to discuss the continued disability discrimination and basic human and civil rights abuses disabled people are experiencing with legal advocates and within the Courts and Adrian and I believe now that it's
important time that a dialogue is urgenly called upon to address all these issues that we disabled people experiencing within our basic human and civil rights to 'natural-justice' with the various representative public bodies, including the BAR Council, Her Majesty's Court Service, Law Society, Howard League Penal Trust, National Probation Service, Liberty and many others around 'Disabled People and Justice' in the Courts and problems experienced with legal advocates.
This dialogue and any arranged meetings will be fully under the control and orgainised by all the representative individual voices and organisations within the disabled people's, survivors, neurodiversity, independent and inclusive living movements, under 'nothing about us, without us'. Not the
charities who state they are representing 'our' voices, but all the 100% 'user-led' organisations. 'The Real Voice!!', under 'Nothing about us, Without us'.
This is a very important basic human and civil rights project and if you want to be involved then can you please correspond wity Mr Adrian Whyatt, who is co-ordinatinating all the names of all interested individuals, public
bodies and others.
Adrian email address is:-
![](/img/maillink.gif)
on:- 02076039710, or 07930680865
Can you please pass on this email to relevant person for 'diversity and equality' within your own oganisations.
You may want to read this background releavnt information from the BAR Council:- BAR COUNCIL'S:- DISABILITY COMMITTEE SUBMISSIONS TO AULD REVIEW:-
See Link for all consultation papers:-
![](/img/extlink.gif)
![](/img/extlink.gif)
Other links:-
Fairness in Courts and Tribunals for Disabled People
![](/img/extlink.gif)
Justice help for disabled people Conference in West Midlands
If they want to create equality of opportunities to justice for all disabled people, then West Midlands CPS need to make changes to their equal opportunities procedures and practices and 'go-beyond' equal opportunties 'policies' by actually start being more pragmatic in making correspondence for all disabled people more easily accessible to us by creating an 'email' correspondence address. That would be a positive start. See below:-
![](/img/extlink.gif)
human rights: transforming services? The Honourable Mr Justice Munby, High Court Judge,Administrative Court ...Facilities for disabled people. See link:-
![](/img/extlink.gif)
Stammering and Disability Discrimination in the UK:- 'The European Union' :-
![](/img/extlink.gif)
JUSTICE / Liberty Human Rights Awards 2005
![](/img/extlink.gif)
You are free to disseminate this email to all other interested individuals and bodies within all your networks.
FREEOURPEOPLE
Yours Sincerely
Colin Revell, East Riding of Yorkshire and Adrian Whyatt, London
Comments
Hide the following 3 comments
Thank you for the DDA? emmm........
04.03.2006 10:37
This was an opportunity to give people a fair and equal access to services.
I had a major concern with the remedy i.e. the way someone who felt that they had been discriminated against within terms of the act could seek redress.
In the main remedy within the DDA is through civil proceedings where the person discriminated against would have to either seek and pay for representation, or represent themselves, in the county court with the remedy being a financial award the discriminating party suffering a financial penalty only.
Compare this if you will to other discriminatory legislation that can carry criminal proceedings and, most importantly, is pursued at nil cost to the victim by the crown
As I look around I see three types of response to the DDA
None - probable the majority
Well meaning - those organisations that put steep ramps everywhere.
Acceptable - those that audit, consult, make budget allocation, and implement procedures and policies and review.
What do you think?
Keiran
DDA and Ramps
04.03.2006 22:59
"Well meaning - those organisations that put steep ramps everywhere."
Are we not happy with the maximum pitches required by the Building Regulations?
Have we given any time for the amendments to the Regs to start to kick in?
Was it realistic to expect complete compliance immediately, even with the long lead in period?
Improvements ARE happening. Give it time.
Puzzled
Ah but.....
08.03.2006 20:11
I mean the act that was passed in 1995 over 10 years ago! how much lead in time do you want?
Are we not happy with the maximum pitches required by the Building Regulations?
Pitches are something that people play sport on. If you mean gradients then yes they will suffice - I would prefer those laid out in BS8300.
The point I was making was that it is unfortunately an oft' held view that disabled people come in wheelchairs! The other misconception is that the solution will be a built one.
Have we given any time for the amendments to the Regs to start to kick in?
What regs do you mean? building regs? there are NO regs in the DDA
Was it realistic to expect complete compliance immediately, even with the long lead in period?
Back to my 10 year point I think
Improvements ARE happening. Give it time.
How long?
K