Bye Bye BAE

went past the uni today, saw ppl coming out with the careers fair bags and wondered if bae etc would be touting for business there...
busy thurs but spray some fake blood for me, wouldya?

nice work. bae were in nottingham on monday and tuesday and although we didn't give them this particular treatment we surrounded their stall with a ring of counter-recruiters. they looked really edgy and security wanted to know when it was all going to "kick off" so the psychological damage has been done

I'd have loved to have been there to see that and the (green) washing that they had to do later

See feature on Nottinghamshire Indymedia:

Protests as arms dealers attend careersfair:
 http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/nottinghamshire/2005/10/325974.html

The same careersfair, but two days earlier in Nottingham, BAE attended as well as Caterpiller, Rolls Royce and Shell and was vistited by protesters. Check out the feature with photo's.

I was present at your disgusting exhibition. What ever happened to peaceful protest. I also know that no FILTHY MONEY is given. Grow up you sick people!

sounds like a good action,
outta interest why was tomatoes better than fake blood??/
explain, it sounds amusing????

I was at Leeds University myself many years ago, and I thought I was all grown up at the time. Now of course I realise it was just my final three years as a schoolkid. Kids will misbehave.

The effectiveness of the action aginst BAE at the careers fair can only be measured in one way. In a few months, contact BAE and ask if they have failed to recruit the necessary staff.

Of course, I am assuming that the purpose of the exercise was to stop BAE recruiting. If the purpose was for a bunch of kids to have a good time, then the exercise obviously was a success.

The comments above at least prove that more than the 'converted' read indymedia so thanks lads for your comments.
Whether the protests changed anything isnt really issue is it? the issue is that they are trying to create a more just world which is more than can be said for most people in todays society!

tomatoes just made a much bigger splat, smell a bit rank and are generally slimier! plus, big tubs of out of date ones are in plentiful supply if you know where to look ;)


they definately got taken out of operation, according to bastion of truth "leeds student" they shut down about half an hour after the action.


"leeds student" also claim it was people and planet, can i just say once and for all WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE AND PLANET. we are a bunch of diorganised and angry restless youths, i doubt p&p would piss on us if we were on fire...

glad thats sorted then.

I think that if THAT'S your way of conveying a message, which you obviously believe so whole-heartedly in, then you're not going to get very far. Do you know how many moronic ignorami like yourselves have already done such things in the past? Yet, these people still turn up at Careers' Fairs. They still make a hell of a lot of money. They make economic sense. You just make a bit of a mess.

If you've got an issue with their business, then question why their business exists in the first place. It's the world that has morality issues, as the world (minus you) asks the company to exist. It's like throwing a box of tissues at a cold, when in fact you should be remedial in your approach and eat more oranges.

You're a waste of everyone's time. Grow up

"If you've got an issue with their business, then question why their business exists in the first place. It's the world that has morality issues, as the world (minus you) asks the company to exist"

Ha ha - I never asked the arms trade to exist either. The arms trade = welfare for the rich.

Now, in the interests of consistency, please tell me that you believe that the world asks drug dealers and child pornographers to exist. After all, there is a demand for their products.

If even one person was dissuaded from working from BAE, then the action was a success.

what effect will your little demonstration have had. very little as BAE offer some of the best graduate jobs in the country. they are extremely over subscribed and you aren't going to put anyone off working there. i agree with peaceful protest but when u start to take the action that u have done u become hypocrites. why is it alright for u to be violent??? if u want to solve the problem look mugabe etc without them theres no problem.

Hey All. Your description of the action sounds fantastic.
Well done for what you did.
Forget too, some of the dissenters on here who have replied to your posting with the usual "grow up" nonsense.
The truth is that, when and only when THEY grow up, will they then see the evil,sickness and killing that scum multinationals like BAe spew and spawn.

We, who are thankfully already enlightened, see the truth and we must speak it to power, or in your case, SHOW it, to power wannabees.

Resist the arms trade. Resist these evil, selfish, sick killers and their apologist supporters who support the killings by implication.
Let them know, again and again that, by supporting BAe and it's worldwide murders and mutilation, they are breaking the law. Legal law and moral law. British and International Law.

Tell these selfish, self-centred, perverted creatures how sick they are. Each and every day.

Resist the arms trade. Fight war NOT wars.

Ya Basta!

I have no deal with your ideologies or whatever, I'm almost indifferent, but what really pisses me off is that you people are such a waste of time, and that if you're going to do it, then do it properly for goodness' sake.

"Now, in the interests of consistency, please tell me that you believe that the world asks drug dealers and child pornographers to exist. After all, there is a demand for their products."

In the interests of consistency, Indeed:
"It's the world that has morality issues" So yes, the world provides the facilities for these people to exist: socio-economic conditions, the internet, the people themselves, and so forth. You want to shut down organisations such as BAE? Think about how to do that: is it really to run around throwing fake blood? mmmmm, you just gained respect for your opinions...

Why not look longer term, and develop yourself into the people who are making the decisions about how an international corporation such as BAE systems ought to be acting and regulated (...and punished should they not conform); into the people who will be able to judge what is the globally morally correct thing to do?


"If even one person was dissuaded from working from BAE, then the action was a success."

I would very much doubt that that was the case, though. Think about the 'sort' of person who would want to work for BAE. Either: they're equally as morally corrupt as you wish to demonstrate the company to be, or... BAE is a massive company that receives a lot of serious publicity over its' work and practices. Any person looking to work for them would have been able to assess already in a much more informed way whether they want to work for them or not. You are deluded if you imagine that acting like that would sway their opinions of the company. You attract more attention to yourselves than to them. As an objective bystander who is looking for a decent graduate employer, that's certainly what's enraged me. Not BAE systems, but you.


"Forget too, some of the dissenters on here who have replied to your posting with the usual "grow up" nonsense.
The truth is that, when and only when THEY grow up, will they then see the evil,sickness and killing that scum multinationals like BAe spew and spawn."

We prefer reported facts, thanks, not a careers fair full of fake blood and MommyDidn'tLoveMeEnoughOrMaybeABitTooMuch attention seeking, ineffective and uninspiring performances which merely demonstrate the worthlessness of the bandwagon-jumping of the so-called 'rebels', whose actions serve NO PURPOSE other than boredom and neurotic self-indulgence. A perfect example here:

"We, who are thankfully already enlightened, see the truth and we must speak it to power, or in your case, SHOW it, to power wannabees."

The irony of it is, that you're power wannabes: You seek to influence people and organisations. You probably ought to start being more effective, then. Because at the minute, you just suck at what you do.

"Let them know, again and again that, by supporting BAe and it's worldwide murders and mutilation, they are breaking the law. Legal law and moral law. British and International Law."

My god. It's like you try to be wrong. What the fuck is moral law? There is no such thing as moral law. Unless you're referring to your senseless and snivelling protestations at how it's YOUR opinions that ought to be valued above everyone elses, about how it's YOUR opinions that are absolute and correct.
How is it breaking any law by working for a company, unless it is you that signs the death warrant? How is it breaking the law by wanting to work for a company? By allowing such a company at your careers fair?

"Resist the arms trade. Fight war NOT wars."

Or if you're THIS joker, then start pointless smaller wars and conflicts in an already disunited society.

So I'd reiterate: Grow up and do something proper about it. Your efforts are futile. Do something EFFECTIVE.

Shit, I just wasted 5 minutes of my life on you godforsaken idiots.