This issue have been posted to the newswire because if in the likely event these allegations are true (I tend to trust the judgement of Channel 4 here), the left cannot dismiss this as a one off or sweep it under the rug. This post is NOT intended as racist, and I am totally against racism and the likes of the BNP, but if the left doesn't acknowlege such issues, the BNP or similar scum will.
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Well I live ten minutes from here
22.08.2003 23:15
In fact I'd go so far as to say it's shit
In as far the rapist tendency in some young males exists
It's sure not an organised racially-orientated thing
Don't be misled by the Channel 4 banner Thomas J
They're in the game as much as any other
dh
And we would so listen up
22.08.2003 23:38
Why not feed the BNP - their objectives are much the same - or as Blunkett implies - let's be much like them to defeat them
dh
It may be hype
23.08.2003 00:23
Thomas J
Creating
23.08.2003 00:48
Be very careful what you're getting into here, Thomas J
dh
Thomas J :
23.08.2003 01:48
Fucking funny calling on the 'left' to take what has been 'spun' and 'spin' it out of the BNP.
I wonder ... do you ever think for yourself?
ram
Jumping to conclusions again, ram?
23.08.2003 08:26
Thank you.
Thomas J
culture, race, etc nothing to do with it
23.08.2003 09:37
ssgh
Believe at your peril
23.08.2003 12:13
Beryl the Pearl
In case you missed it
23.08.2003 13:39
Do not spin it further.
Let it be.
There may be asian pigs in Yorkshire...big shit!
Can we focus on more important stuff like why MSF have withdrawn from Basra hospitals or where we ware killing innocents.
ram
'Sexed up'
23.08.2003 19:32
OK, so these young men are attracted to some young women, and the young women are attracted to the young men, ..oh and the young men happen to be Asian in this particular instance....? So what exactly is it that's deemed wrong about a 19 year old boy fancying a 15 year old girl ? Yet legally he is regarded as a paedophile if they have sex ? Although on the flip side (as it were) the 19 year old male wouldn't be breaking any laws if he had sex with a 60 year old man - forfucksake they can even get married now ! All perfectly normal we are told. But tho shalt not be arroused by nubile young ladies....?
Although I notice the sex part of the article has almost been irrelevant to the story here. Whatever the reason for this here, I don't think these types of articles mix well with that other spin that implies most asylum seekers (read Jonny foreigner) have HIV/AIDS.
'Foreigners unclean' + 'Lock up your daughters = Irrational fear of all people with more than a slight tan...
Well, either that or it's the forerunner to making heterosexuality illegal in the UK ? ..wouldn't surprise me, the world has gone mad !
R Don
Left? Left? Where are you Left?
23.08.2003 21:49
However, what this whole discussion again proves is that the Left simply has NO answers for the rallying cry of the right, that being the one of immigration and racial tensions. These are incredibly simple and effective tools for a political party or group to employ to their own benefits. Yet time and time again on IMC all you get from you liberal folk is pages and pages of abuse, name calling and mockery. That's no answer at all, that merely strengthens the position of the right.
And i beleive it was a the secondary point of the original postee that the left, simply has no answers. It needs some, and tey need to be delivered well. Fast. And people need to hear it. All we'll all be voting bnp before you know it.
karic
Interesting comments so far...
23.08.2003 22:38
Thomas J
Timing
24.08.2003 02:03
Numchuk
Where art tho Left ?
24.08.2003 09:05
That's us, right ? (Not that's us right ? Of you know what I mean !)
There is only one thing for it ! Abolish 'council tax' and introduce a 'cottagers tax' for all toilet traders. Brighton and Oxford should cover the bill for the whole of the UK, and we can use the change to feed the third world. Wonderful. Oh, and make homosexuality punishable by finger pointing and funny looks.
Well either that or keep spreading the truth using independent media outlets such as this, that allow free speech. Whilst of course ensuring reader don't got bored with all the abuse, name calling, mockery ..and dare I say it, criticism from within (allegedly) ! Cartoons and caricatures have always had their role in politics so a little piss taking should be welcomed methinks...
Well, all we need now is a common enemy or a shared purpose, that doesn't involve prejudicing anyone. Not even fascists, well not if they are foreign fascists anyway. I can't think of anything right now, but do let me know if you think of anything...
Tisme Left
Left In The Dirt
26.08.2003 01:12
The War on Iraq almost provided the catalyst for such a united front. But despite the customary efforts of students up and down the country the struggle never really caught on. Rather then being used to highlight the faults in the way the Right is handling the new threat of Islam .
Instead it is being used to expose the rotten underbelly of new labour, and the only alternative? Throwing in a deeply divided and unimpressive conservative party.
So i dont really have any answers as to a common enemy. America? maybe, but we do still need a strong america in order to help promote democracy across the globe (even if it is an american version of democracy (i still believe this can br changed)) - its current regime would of course be a natural target. Yet already one at the centre of much criticism, and yet no united front is really emerging.
Immigration? The left, still has NO answers to the publics worries and has done little in the mainstream to demonstrate the flaws in the likes of the bnp.
Public service reform? The left still insists the best way forward is via an uneconomical model of hard cash and unweildy management systems. Attempts by new labour to remodel have been opposed, in many cases over genuine fears of soverignty, but no alternative is seriosuly suggested.
And of course there is the issue of who actually stands for the left? Socialist parties? Greens? the Communists? Neither of them can co operate or engage with one another. Perhaps the left needs to stop fighting each other before it thinks about taking on the big bad world.
karic