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911 Tall Buildings Tall Tales

Captain Timo | 28.05.2004 18:55 | Analysis | Anti-militarism | Cambridge | London

There is an official interpretation of the events of 11 Sept 2001. This interpretation leaves an awful lot to be desired. Independent investigators have been trying to fit the jigsaw pieces together. This is an introduction to 911 from the conspiracy theorists point of view.



911 - Tall Buildings and Tall Tales

Captain Timo 26 May 2004

Conspiracy theories are not usually well received except when they relate to the distant past where they are regarded as part and parcel of history or when they form part of an official explanation of recent events. Thus stories of medieval Popes dying at the hands of the surreptitious poisoner are acceptable. Nobody today would deny that Julius Caesar died as a result of a plot, i.e. a conspiracy. But for modern times conspiracy as an explanation does not go down well in most quarters unless that explanation has official sanction. The story of Osama bin Laden and the nineteen hijackers and the nebulous and Will-o'the-wisp organisation called Al Qaeda is such an officially sanctioned and approved conspiracy story.

We are led to believe bin Laden hidden away in the wilds of Afghanistan, with nothing but a satellite phone to communicate with was able to lead and co-ordinate a daring conspiracy involving multiple hijackings which somehow overcame the air defence systems of the greatest military power in the world and then using these aircraft destroyed two of the worlds tallest buildings by turning the planes into missiles where some of his fanatical followers served as guidance system. Stranger still the black boxes from the planes were never found. Yet the passport of one who was said to be the leader of this deadly expedition, Mohammed Atta, survived the inferno, we are told. These deadly hijackers had the power to render themselves invisible, apparently. That must be why they did not appear on airport security cameras as they went about their activities. It could have something to do too with why no Arabic names appeared on the passenger lists for the fatal flights.

These hijackers were even more special. Quite a number of them turned up alive in the Middle East after they had been described in the media as part of the suicidal attack team. That certainly takes some doing. Some had been described as having undergone training at a flying school in Florida. Before they had been pressed into silence their instructors had described their level of accomplishment as very poor. Yet they miraculously morphed into flyers with the skills of trained fighter pilots in time for the big event. A number of the alleged hijackers have been described by acquaintances in the US as "playboy types" who believed themselves working as low level FBI agents. Anyone familiar with the culture of Muslim Arabs will know militant Islamists, and especially those who might be prepared to commit suicide as part of a military operation, keep rigidly to the ascetic behavioural code of their religion. "Playboy types" they could not be.

Within 24 hours of the events the security authorities were able to solve the great mystery behind what had happened. Whereas just before they had been "clueless", as it were, now the problem was solved. Osama bin Laden and his flying circus were the culprits who appeared like a rabbit out of a hat to be dangled before the media just in time to reap the shock, outrage and anger of America.

During police investigations in the real world once a case has been cracked and a perpetrator uncovered the progress in the case does not then come to a sudden stop but rather more and more layers of facts and interrelationships are uncovered as lines of evidence are followed up. The way the bin Laden story emerged suddenly fully formed to be paraded before the worlds media has all the appearances of a pre-prepared covert operations cover story. Its sudden appearance recalls the emergence of the doctored Oswald biography which began to be circulated world wide even before Oswald had been charged with the murder of President Kennedy.

Bizarre also is the question of motive. To have some idea who or what lies behind a mysterious act we must ask ourselves 'who benefits?'. It is hard to make the case Arabs or Muslims benefit from a sequence of events which has brought them invasion, death, destruction and their lands contaminated with the deadly radioactive substance; depleted uranium. Also Israel has been facilitated. It can now construct its wall to hem in and virtually imprison the Palestinians as part of the war on terror. A case can be made that an anti-Zionist anti-US group might want to provoke a US invasion of the Middle East in order to tie down American forces there in a protracted guerrilla war. The aim would be that America would only be able to disengage after making major concessions regarding Palestine and its military and political presence in the region. The evidence for such a plan or such a group is thin. In any case were US forces tied down in a war in a part of the Middle East with no victory in sight they could 'declare victory' and withdraw. Israel and the Arab client states of the US can survive such a happening.

Before Sept 2001 the Palestinian Intifada enjoyed much sympathy across the world. At a conference in South Africa chaired by Mary Robinson, UN Commissioner for Human Rights, a week before Israel was being condemned as a racist state. The Palestinian cause was gaining converts even within America. Why would Arab activists want to throw away such a political advantage? The reality is that American militarism and Israeli Likudnik extremism have been the real beneficiaries of what happened. So, when we consider the political and military scenarios, Arab involvement in the great crime looks unlikely. It is hard to imagine a plausible motivation.
Carrying out such an attack required calculation. But those possessing such gifts of calculation would realise such an action played into the hands of their enemies.

But did not bin Laden admit to ordering and carrying out the attacks? Actually he sought out a newspaper in Pakistan and in late September 2001 gave an interview where he denied any involvement. There was, of course, the video of poor quality which is said to have been found in Afghanistan which was held up triumphantly before the public as confirmation of his guilt. Both in terms of context and content this 'evidence' reeks of absurdity. First there is the context. If bin Laden had decided to say he had no involvement then allowing a video to be filmed where he says the opposite makes no sense. He undoes the effect of the Pakistani interview. He could either have had a policy of denying or admitting involvement. He could not have had both. Secondly the content of that video raises more questions than answers. The different scenes do not cohere together in a coherent context. It looks like it has been cobbled together from pieces of archive footage spliced onto the supposedly damning pivotal scenes. The parts where bin Laden allegedly admits responsibility have the picture quality one expects from the computer graphics lab rather than real live footage. The English translation on the film does not match the poor quality Arabic dialogue.

If bin Laden was not responsible then who was? Let us look at other aspects of the case. The air defence network apparently was stood down for the day. There was foreknowledge in Washington. Various dignitaries refused to fly on the date in question. Well connected individuals bought put options on the stock of United Airlines and American Airlines through a brokerage run by a former head of CIA. They profited hugely when airline stocks took the inevitable plunge.

The above matters deserve to be investigated thoroughly by law enforcement officials and by the mainstream media. Nothing has happened.

Most extraordinary of all is how both WTC towers collapsed uniformly as if subject to controlled demolition. To the TV viewer passively absorbing the scene it seemed natural to assume the collapses were caused by the fires and structural damage sustained. This is how film fools us. We uncritically piece the scenes consecutively set before us into a narrative in our minds without asking if the narrative makes sense in the real physical world.

The World Trade Centre was built in the early 1970s and was then the tallest building in the world. It was a world renowned symbol of wealth and prestige. Naturally such a structure was built to survive the impact of a jet liner. The 707 of those days actually had similar fuel capacity to today’s 757 or 767. So why did the impacts cause the buildings to collapse? The simple answer is that there is no reason to believe they did. The buildings were left in tact following the impacts. Burning jet fuel can not reach the temperature necessary to melt the reinforced steel skeleton of tall buildings. There is no record in history of the skeletal structure of a skyscraper collapsing as a result of a fire.

What we do know is that people in the vicinity reported hearing explosions just before the collapses occurred. A video film taken from a camera mounted on a tripod trained on the WTC shows a shake as if an explosion was occurring some seconds before the collapse of one of the tall WTC buildings began.

Weeks after the collapse, the debris of the WTC as it was being removed, was seen to contain segments of smouldering rubble. This is not consistent with the official story. It is, however, perfectly consistent with the use of an explosive substance called thermite to provoke a structural collapse.

All this points to a conspiracy involving one or more intelligence agencies backed up by facilitators from inside administrative government. Behind the guise of the official story lies a “false flag” operation of breath-taking scale. By a “false flag” operation is meant an operation designed to appear the work of another party or nation so as they might be politically undermined. Too far fetched? For most folks it certainly is.

However such a reaction is not an outcome of logical reasoning. Those who dismiss the 911 sceptic react with dismissive silence or superficial argument gleaned from TV. There are a number of psychological barriers that hold people off stepping up to the plate and confronting the abundance of evidence that the official version is a mere cover story completely and utterly at variance with reality.

One is the natural human tendency to behave as part of a hierarchical group. Thus we conform to the norms of a group and accept the authority at the pinnacle of the hierarchy. Without this tendency organised society would not be possible. It is only when the authority makes us feel very uncomfortable or has been superseded by another one that we will question its validity or credibility. So the natural state of human affairs is for individuals to possess a bond of trust and loyalty with higher authority. This predisposes people to trust officialdom. This does not mean they believe all they are told or are utterly deferential. But it does mean that they are ready to give authority the benefit of the doubt more than reason requires.

Another barrier is connected with the widespread superficiality in the public awareness of history. Few realise that almost all of America’s wars of the last century or so began with a brazen act of public deception. President Roosevelt had his “this day will live in infamy” speech written before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour. The US government engineered a situation where the Japanese would attack and kill thousands of unsuspecting Americans. The Vietnam war began in earnest for the US as a result of the Tonkin Gulf incident in 1965 where a US Navy warship was supposedly attacked by a non-existent North Vietnamese patrol boat. Such is the material used to set America’s wars in motion. However since the agony of Vietnam there has been a reluctance to get directly involved in foreign conflicts. Only a traumatic painful shock could rouse the nation from this habit of military reticence. Another Tonkin Gulf incident would never do the trick this time. Then, low and behold, out of the blue, just when all seemed lost, on Sept 11, 2001 it happened!

Another barrier relates to a lack of understanding of how power functions and is constituted in contemporary industrialised societies particularly the US. Elected administrations are just one element in the mosaic of elite power. Corporate and private moneyed interests, public officials civilian and military, secret societies, and that ever watchful piranha on the side of the privileged and powerful; the intelligence community, make up the rest of the picture. Elected-representatives are not the only people with the power to make things happen. Frequently they are merely the puppets of other actors behind the scenes or are merely reacting opportunistically to events they barely understand themselves.

People also find 911-scepticism hard to accept because it presents them with a deeply corrupt world which makes them feel uncomfortable and fearful and which they would rather not have to accept as real.

Another part of the official story has passengers making short frantic cell phone calls telling their families what was happening on the “hijacked” planes. One problem with this is that cell phones do not work from planes flying at altitude. Another is that the calls were not recorded on the computers of the cell phone companies.

There is no hard evidence that the organisation known as Al Qaeda, as at present widely understood, actually exists. It is, like Frankenstein, like Oswald the Communist sympathiser of the Warren Commission Report, like Goldilocks and the three Bears, like the people who knew for sure Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, part of the cast of a story merely and nothing more.

The best explanation for what happened is that planes were flown into the WTC buildings by remote control. It looks like the Pentagon was hit by a guided missile. The damage and debris there, after the attack, were not consistent with a plane crash. The demolition of the WTC complex was achieved by controlled explosion.

The tragic events make no sense except as an attempt to achieve radical political change. Since then the US has changed completely its stance regarding foreign military engagement. Since then the US has become less free politically thanks to the Patriot act and thanks to a change in attitude towards those with unconventional political views. In the west generally there is a new brutalised mentality which will countenance torture and brutality even on a wide scale. Israel has been able to build its massive wall around Palestinian population centres cutting them off from their hinterlands containing their agricultural and water resources. These walled in areas have effectively been turned into the largest open air prison on the planet while objections within the world community are muted. This is in line with the logic of the War on Terror whereby
Arabs and Muslims generally are deemed so suspect they are fit for special brutalisation.


There is a form of 9/11 scepticism which is becoming fashionable and popular which says the attacks happened much as the corporate media say they did except that the Bush administration knew they were to happen and allowed them to take place so as to reap the political rewards. One might characterise this as the position of officially sanctioned dissidence. You can voice this sort of stuff on mainstream media and even get it broadcast/printed. You get the added bonus of appearing smart and knowing amongst your circle. It is a fashion accessory which will get you noticed without costing you money. So why not go for it?


The problem here is that this is a distraction which leads attention away from the most obvious inconsistencies and absurdities related to the events. This works rather as a distraction worked by a stage magician takes the attention of the audience away from where the real slight of hand is taking place. It distracts attention away from 95 per cent of the most important evidence. Furthermore it focuses attention on areas (e.g. why were air defences stood down?) where key sources of evidence are subject to governmental control. The sceptic is being led into a pre-prepared evidential cul-de-sac.

On the internet there are quite a number of fine 9/11 sceptic websites. There are also sites which pretend to be real 9/11 sceptic sites but have the purpose of disseminating disinformation i.e. setting false trails to confuse and mislead.

Below is a very incomplete list of some of the best genuine 9/11 sceptic sites on the web:

 http://physics911.org/net/

 http://www.911review.org/index.shtml

 http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

 http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/surviving.html

 http://serendipity.ptpi.net/wtc.htm

 http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC.htm

 http://www.oilempire.us/911.html

 http://globalfreepress.com/

 http://www.911-strike.com/

 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ (see category / 911)

 http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html

 http://www.globalresearch.ca/


Captain Timo
- e-mail: capntimo270@hotmail.com


Comments

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Islamic fundamentalists have been using similar tactics for years.

29.05.2004 09:36

Long before 911 Islamic fundamentalists had been carrying out similar terrorist atrocities on a much smaller scale. From individual suicide bombings, to massive lorry bombings. The fault for the 911 atrocity lies clearly with the Islamic fundamentalists of Al Qaeda and not with President George Bush.

Bush is innocent


Elementary

29.05.2004 12:46

If your average sleuth, Captain Timo can figure it out, why can't our erstwhile politicians, academics, judges, lawyers and scholars?

Inside Job


Elementary indeed

29.05.2004 13:54

Yes, Inside Job, there are many folk of the type you mention (politicians, academics, judges, lawyers and scholars) who have cottoned on. I think you will find that it is the manipulation of the media and comfort zone brains like 'Bush is innocent' which are the main obstacle to the truth. So long as the BBC propagate the official line and then play silly games with the government so that we all think that they are soooo cutting edge, alternative news sources won't be heard. MTV people follow General Mark Kermitt's advice when it comes to ickie stories,'Change the channel'.

For scholarly dissent on the official 911 story, have a look at 'The New Pearl Harbor' by Professor David Ray Griffin. Or have a look at GNN (Gorilla News Network) website and their DVD/video 'AfterMath'.

From their site:

"In this investigative documentary, Former Inspector General of the Dept. of Transportation and attorney Mary Schiavo, UC Professor Emeritus Peter Dale Scott, author and professor Michel Chossudovsky, From the Wilderness' Mike Ruppert, and author Nafeez Ahmed, among others, raise critical, unresolved questions surrounding the tragedy of September 11. AfterMath investigates the troubling span of issues that have arisen since the attacks, including: the negligence of military officials in immediately reacting to the hijackings, proven links between the hijackers, Pakistani intelligence (ISI) and the CIA, the role of oil in the Eurasian conflict and, finally, the impact of post-911 legislation on American civil liberties."

 http://www.guerrillanews.com

Zinfandel


Captain Timo - Request

29.05.2004 13:59

Captain Timo - can I put your posting on my website, please?

I have only recently started to put it together so it is still looking a bit bare at the moment but I need articles like yours. Please look in. There is also a forum where your thoughts would be welcome:

 http://www.flamesong.com

Zinfandel


http://members.fortunecity.com/911/

30.05.2004 12:09

LIST OF ARTICLES from  http://members.fortunecity.com/911/

Click here if you have a dialup connection (smaller images, faster downloads)  http://guardian.150m.com/index.html

SEPTEMBER THE ELEVENTH 2001.

THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.

In a Perfect World.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/perfect-world.gif
Evidence of Explosives in the World Trade Center Towers collapse
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/tower-explosions.htm (0.7 MB).
Why did the World Trade Center Towers Fall? A Review of Thomas Eagar's (of MIT) Article
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/nova.htm (0.7 MB).
Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers. A Review of Charles Clifton's Article
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/clifton.htm (0.7 MB).
The Jet Fuel; How hot did it heat the World Trade Center?
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/how-hot.htm
Proof the Twin Towers were Deliberately Demolished.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/proof.htm
The FEMA Report into the World Trade Center 7 Collapse is a Total Joke.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC7-short.htm
Multi-Storey Buildings in Steel: The World Trade Center
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/godfrey.htm (0.4 MB).
Some Articles from Engineering News Record
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/eng-news-record.htm (0.8 MB).
Comments on the World Trade Center Demolition
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/wtc-demolition.htm (0.4 MB).
Microsoft Software used to simulate the crash of a Boeing 747 into the World Trade Center.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/wtc-microsoft.htm
University of California, Berkeley Professor, Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl Testifies.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/astaneh-wtc.htm
The World Trade Center 7 Explosion Myth.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/seven/fake-explosion.htm
The World Trade Center Towers collapse as an Enormous Insurance Scam.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/insurance-scam.htm
What went wrong with the investigation? By Eric Hufschmid (with comment).
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/hufschmid/PainfulQuestions_1.htm
Sixty State Street and the World Trade Center towers: A Comparison
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/sixty-state-street/construction.htm (0.7 MB).
Was Thermite used to Melt Sections of the World Trade Center Core Columns.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/thermite.htm
Calculations Say at Least 14 Tons of High Explosive Needed to Bring Down Each Tower.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/dust-cloud.htm

THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY (FEMA) REPORTS ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER DISASTER.

Table Of Contents for the FEMA World Trade Center Report.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_toc.htm
Chapter 1 of the FEMA WTC Report: Introduction (with comment)
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch1.htm (0.9 MB).
Chapter 2 of the FEMA WTC Report: The Twin Towers (with comment)
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch2.htm (2.2 MB).
Chapter 3 of the FEMA WTC Report: WTC 3
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch3.htm (0.4 MB).
Chapter 4 of the FEMA WTC Report: WTC 4, 5, and 6
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch4.htm (1.2 MB).
Chapter 5 of the FEMA WTC Report: World Trade Center Seven (with comment)
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch5.htm (1.3 MB).
Chapter 6 of the FEMA WTC Report: Bankers Trust Building
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch6.htm (0.6 MB).
Chapter 7 of the FEMA WTC Report: Peripheral Buildings
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_ch7.htm (0.8 MB).
Appendix A of the FEMA WTC Report: Overview of Fire Protection in Buildings
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_apndxA.htm (0.5 MB).
Appendix B of the FEMA WTC Report: Structural Steel and Steel Connections
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_apndxB.htm (0.6 MB).
Appendix D of the FEMA WTC Report: WTC Steel Data Collection
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/WTC_apndxD.htm (0.8 MB).
The FEMA World Trade Center Collection in PDF-document format.
 http://www.house.gov/science/hot/wtc/wtcreport.htm

THE FIRES.

Research Results from the Cardington Test Fires (text only).
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/fire/main.htm
A New Approach to Multi-Storey Steel Framed Buildings Fire and Steel Construction
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/fire/SCI.htm (0.8 MB).
The Behaviour of Multi-storey Composite Steel Framed Structures in Response to Compartment Fires
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/fire/SLamont.htm (1.0 MB).
The Cardington Tests and the Broadgate Fire.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/fire/cardington.htm
Tapes Tell of Firefighters Courage at WTC.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/firefighters.htm
The Cardington Reports in PDF-document format.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/fire/technicalreports.html

THE PENTAGON.

A Detailed Analysis of whether or not a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/what-hit-it.htm (1.5 MB).
Photos of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon are a Complete and Utter Fabrication
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/explosion.htm (0.5 MB).
The Pentagon Problem in a Nutshell.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/pentagon-details.htm
The Bijlmer Crash - Joe Vialls - Caught in a Lie
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/bijlmer/bijlmer.htm (0.5 MB).
Carol A. Valentine Article Completely Wrong.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/wrong.htm
The Strange Case of the Sports Utility Vehicle at the Pentagon.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/oddity.htm
How the Size of the Plane in the "Explosion" Photo was Calculated.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/size.htm
The Essence of the Problem.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/essence-of-problem.htm
Article on the Pentagon Retrofit.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/pentagon/pentagon-retrofit.htm

THE RESPONSE, OR RATHER, LACK OF IT.

District of Columbia Air National Guard Mission And Vision Statement.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/ang-mission.htm
New Jersey Air National Guard Mission Statement.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/atlan_18.htm
An example of Air National Guard efficency.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/ang-example.htm
Where was NORAD on September Eleven?
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/norad.htm

OTHER 9-11.

Evidence that the Arabs are Not to blame for the WTC attack.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/arabs-not-to-blame.htm
Seismic Waves Generated by Aircraft Impacts and Building Collapses at the WTC
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm (0.3 MB).
Seismic Observations During the September 11, 2001, Terrorist Attack
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm (0.5 MB).
Many 9-11 "Hijackers" are Still Alive and Well.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
Israelis arrested on suspicion of 9-11 involvement.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/israelis-arrested-9-11.htm
Sept 11th - Unanswered Questions By MalcontentX
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/unanswered-9-11.htm (0.3 MB).
Investigation shows Cellphone Calls from 9-11 "Hijacked" Planes are next to Impossible
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/cell-phones.htm
Benjamin Freedman Predicted the Present Push for WWW III in 1961, prescient eh?
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/freedman.htm

PALESTINE (AKA ISRAEL).

Some Facts About Palestine.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/facts.htm
Listing and Map of Land Ownership in Palestine in 1947.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/stolen-land.htm
Listing and Map of Towns and Villages Ethnically Cleansed/Destroyed by the Jews.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/destroyed-towns.htm
More on the Towns and Villages Ethnically Cleansed/Destroyed by the Jews
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/cleansed-towns.htm (0.5 MB).
Time line of the Israeli aggression against the Palestinians in the 1948 war.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/conquest-timeline.htm
Jewish/Israeli massacres of Palestinians and Jewish Terrorism in general.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/israeli-massacres.htm
Brief articles on the 1948, 1956 and 1967 wars started by Israel.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/some-wars.htm
Brief article on the Israeli attempt to ignite a civil war in Lebanon.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/civil-war.htm
Arafat calls for democratic elections in the United States.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/arafat-elections.htm
The Amazing Cost of Israel to the United States
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/us-aid-to-israel.htm
America should fight minorities and aliens the way Israel does!
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/apartheid-israeli-style.htm
The Day Israel Deliberately Killed 34 American Sailors.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/uss-liberty.htm
Brief article on Israeli apartheid.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/israeli-apartheid.htm
Israel wins Huge Victory.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/israeli-victory.htm
Is Israel a Democracy?
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/democracy.htm
Some Israeli War Criminals.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/war-criminals.htm
Some articles on the War Criminal Sharon.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/sharon.htm
The War Criminal Sharon. The Long Version.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/sharon-crime-history.htm
The Chinese claim California as a Confucian Homeland.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/california.htm
Time to Bomb Israel for its Development and Deployment of Weapons of Mass Destruction.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/bomb-isreal.htm
God gave the Jews New York.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/new-york.htm
The Genocidal God of the Jews.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/genocidal-god.htm
Some Zionist Fairy Tales.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/zionist-fairy-tales.htm
Israel mugs the Palestinians.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/israel-mugs-pals.htm
Muslims base their claim to Palestine on History.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/moslem-claim.htm
Jewish Terrorism.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm
Jewish Terrorism targeting the British.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/terror-against-british.htm
Online Books about Palestine and the Jews.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/resources.htm
What you can do if you care.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/what-u-can-do.htm
Jews Attack Christianity.
 http://members.fortunecity.com/911/palestine/jews-attack.htm

OTHER

Why did the US develop the Space Shuttle when the Saturn 5 is so much better?
 http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortunecity.com/911/other/shuttle.htm
Why is the US developing the Delta rockets when the Saturn 5 is so much better?
 http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortunecity.com/911/other/delta.htm
Why are there no stars in the Apollo moon-landing photos?
 http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortunecity.com/911/other/no-stars.htm
Why is no one allowed to question the Holocaust?
 http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortunecity.com/911/other/holocaust.htm

Here are some websites which mirror the old nerdcities.com/guardian site (from about January 2003).

 http://911review.org/Wget/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/
 http://misternet.org/nerdcities/index_guardian.html
 http://www.wtc7.net/911research/mirrors/guardian/
 http://guardian.911review.org/

Here are three websites that mirror some or all of the most recent edition of the nerdcities.com/guardian site (from September 2003).

 http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortunecity.com/911/ (full mirror)
 http://guardian.150m.com
 http://guardian.250free.com

Here is some useful information from the second.

Download 45 Megabytes of Information Concerning 9-11.

If you like the articles presented on guardian.150m.com then you can download them, and many more like them, by clicking on the following link.

Click  http://dc.indymedia.org/usermedia/application/13/guardian11sep03.tar to download the September 11 2003 update of the nerdcities.com/guardian site (45 MB)

Save the archive file guardian11Sep03.tar to a directory on your hard-drive.
We will assume that you have chosen C:\ but any directory will do.
Extract the archive using WinZip, Stuffit or tar -xf to the directory C:\
This will automatically place the contents of the archive into the directory C:\guardian (and sub-directories).

Microsoft users will use WinZip to extract the files.
Linux/Unix users will use the command tar -xf guardian11Sep03.tar and
Apple users will use Stuffit.

Now point your web browser at C:\guardian\index.html.
That is, type C:\guardian\index.html in the address/location bar (where you usually enter a web-sites URL) of Internet Explorer.
This will bring up the main index page (don't forget to bookmark it for easy return). Now just follow the links.

If you wish you can also download a collection of full-sized photos from the MIT report - Sixty State Street - A Case Study.

Click  http://dc.indymedia.org/usermedia/application/9/sixty_state_street.tar

to download the collection of photos from the MIT report (15 MB)
Thumbnail versions of these photos are already available in the archive guardian11Sep03.tar
Save the archive file sixty-state-street.tar to the same directory that you saved guardian11Sep03.tar
Similarly, extract the archive using WinZip, Stuffit or tar -xf to the directory C:\
This will automatically place the contents of the archive into the directory C:\guardian\sixty-state-street

http://members.fortunecity.com/911/


File does not exist

30.05.2004 14:06

The requested URL /usermedia/application/13/guardian11sep03.tar was not found on this server

:o(

Zinfandel


members.fortunecity=Disinformation

30.05.2004 18:56

The particular form of disinfo involves the addition of a commentary in red print to articles of real analytical value and then throwing in some superficial articles in to the mix. Essentially it is a bout mixing in bullshit with real analysis to confuse and demoralise.

Below is a piece of typical disinformation from members.fortunecity.com. The link is  http://members.fortunecity.com/911/wtc/dust-cloud.htm.
"This article by J. Hoffman is a deliberate attempt to divert your attention from the fact that explosives were used to bring down the WTC towers. By presenting a possible explanation for the debris cloud without considering explosives, he is implicitly stating that he, as an expert in the field, does not consider explosives an option, so why should you? He is deliberately pointing you in the wrong direction.
As for the web-site  http://physics911.org. It is generally of poor quality, is full of misinformation, and has very few contributors. It is clearly a site designed to miss-direct and cover-up for the official media/government conspiracy theory. "

Actually physics911.org is run by eminent scientists with a distinguished track record in terms of academic achievement and works published. The site was set up by a Professor of Matha and Computer Science.
It is members.fortunecity that is attempting to lead you in the wrong direction.

Beware of attempts to lead you from the truth! Savour all arguments presented to you carefully!

Capn Timo

Captain Timo
mail e-mail: capntimo270@hotmail.com


Yeah, great article, well put.

30.05.2004 19:24

yes we think it's a great article sums up the whole 911 story very well we're in the process of translating
into Italian and we will leave the captian timo credit and the title in english so you'll find it ..
easy. Wow just saw the fortunecity shit someone with a lot of time and resources ? like a government oppo ?
take a couple of months to follow all those links .. just as well "they" don't have a proper job 2 go 2 ..

lucky !

lucky luciano


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