The event, presented by the Cambridge Forum, a university debating society, was hampered by public pressure which resulted in multiple venues denying access to the forum once they found out what the event consisted of.
Cambridge anti-BNP video
Cambridge Indymedia | 05.12.2002 00:49 | Cambridge
The event, presented by the Cambridge Forum, a university debating society, was hampered by public pressure which resulted in multiple venues denying access to the forum once they found out what the event consisted of.
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freedom of speech
05.12.2002 01:23
"I disaprove of what you say,
but I will defend to the death
your right to say it"
Voltaire
richard george
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reason
05.12.2002 01:31
truth
depends what you mean by "freedom of speech"
05.12.2002 02:20
Regardless, when it came down to it, there was in fact no denial of "freedom of speech" at all - the event fell through because the Lib Dem MP cancelled when he got in trouble with his party, which effectively killed the "debate." What I don't understand is why anyone would "debate" with a Nazi in any case - did the Lib Dem figure, "Hey, I know, I'll debate this Griffin fellow, and maybe after we're done talking I'll have really learned something from the experience and think that Hitler was just misunderstood, that the holocaust never happened, or that maybe they deserved it..." Like, what the hell is the point?
As for being a minority in your own country, well, speaking as someone from North America I've got to say that the British owe a profound debt of gratitude to their immigrant population for bringing some decent recipes with them; British cuisine is not much to be proud of...if a victorious BNP means that I'd be subjected to endless servings of meat and two veg, it's my human duty to fight them with all the means at my disposal.
For the samosa revolution,
fb
flag burner
No denial of "freedom of speech"
05.12.2002 11:43
As a side line I do believe that it is a good thing for the general public to be exposed to the ugly ideas of the BNP. They are so repulsive that they make our antiBNP arguments for us.
As for the idiotic comment above about "being a minority in our own country" my answer is: any country is the country of the people living in it, and it does not belong to any particular "race" as you imply. Do you feel a minority amongst the saxons, the angles, the vickings? They are all "foreighners", but I guess you think they are a legitimate part of england! So just get used to other people, and start considering them as an integral part of our country.
manos
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free speech
05.12.2002 11:45
The BNP and other Nazi groups haven't been banned, they are free to organise marches and meetings, sell their papers, stick leaflets through doors etc. Meanwhile, many Muslim and Arab political groups HAVE actually been banned, here and across Europe and the US. This is the reality; free speech for Nazis, bans and censorship for Muslims and Arabs.
Also, never forget that, though you defend Nazis' right to speak, they won't return the favour. Nazis have no qualms about using every method available to them to silence their opponents; including threats, violence and murder.
And finally, to our Nazi pal above; I think you'll find in the end, much as it may shatter your apocalyptic wet-dreams of race war, the majority of us in every community are anti-racist and anti-fascist, and we will not fear you.
kurious oranj
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re:my earlier comment
05.12.2002 14:48
however, my opinion issue of exposing the views of the BNP to be the racist beliefs they are remains the same. we debate with them to reveal through dialogue the inconsistencies in their arguements. likewise i agree that the Islamic parties whose views have been censored should be free to express their views.
and yes, while we allow them to speak we should oppose their policies to the end.
but again, thank you to those who brought a greater level of information on this issue.
ps: on a side note, maybe someone should suggest to our government and the BNP that if they want less immigrants / asylum seekers they should stop waging wars on foriegn countries...
richard george
update to my comment
05.12.2002 15:12
richard george
nazis should be thankfull
06.12.2002 06:12
John Howard
which is nice
06.12.2002 12:16
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